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Why Is Epic Mafia Dying?

almost 7 years

The reason this site has stayed alive for so long is because:

1.) It has had seasons of ups and downs.

2.) It engaged foreign countries during a time when good free games were hard to find.

3.) The circulation of the mod team and it's drama was worth grabbing some pop-corn and watching.

4.) We had villains who were worth watching as well. And heroes.

5.) We were able to engage in new players with the mentorship program and people felt invited.

6.) Epic Mafia was new and exciting for all people who came here.


So if those are the reasons it was thriving what is happening today that is killing it.

1.) We've been in a down slump for far too long. The way we've been getting out of it for the past couple of years is that the mods have been coming in and being a light to the community Our current mods are so focused on finding anyone who even looks like they slightly cheated and just banning them and the accusation of one person. The mods are also using threats and accusing people of having witnesses against them in order to confess things that are not true or half truths that make them seem like they cheated, despite their own statement. Strong arming is not ok and people don't feel safe around a gestapho mod team.

2.) Foreigners have moved onto different free games. They see a bunch of whinning babies on this site who complain too much and they do not want to stay. They do not see an inviting community that is cohesive together. No one wants to be part of a community that is bickering constantly.

3.) We have current mods who have been in the position for too long and need to take 6 months off. They have banned so many people they have lost their trust in the community. It happens. It is part of the job. At the same time the current mod team is so violent in their actions that no one wants to watch it. Years ago when the violation policy was changed to be more harsh several of us said that it was too harsh and we have been waiting for EpicMafia to run into that buzz saw. All it would take is one bad mod team that is too controlling to use it poorly to start to destroy the trust of the community. We are seeing that happen.

4.) This site is hated so much now that in the past two months the normal villains that would cause some pretty interesting drama have left. Now we are reduced to watch certain factions rise up and try to fight the mod team or the website in other ways. Some of the fake accounts leading this crappy charge would suprize you. Some of them are even mods themselves current and not so distantly removed. Some of them are your favorite players. Regardless, it is the crappiest villain drama I've seen on epic for years, since edark. It doesn't help when several of the new heroes that have come on the scene are banned by the mods just because of one accusation.

5.) I hear some new players who talk about how hard it was to get into this community. If that is the case then that means 90% of the new people who join the site are not staying. I brought this up to a mod and they shot it down thinking it wasn't true. This is where your mentorship team comes in and runs things and helps the site grow, but that old practice has been shot down and the mentorship team has been reduced to an inaffective and inactive team of circle-jerkers like the mod team.

6.) Let's face it. With the way gaming is changing, EpicMafia is a game that was established in 2009 off of a 1997 internet gaming platform. Everything has changed about free online gaming; and EpicMafia doesn't meet the cut anymore. There isn't a video chat ranked system. The adds on the site just make it look horrible. This style of game play is made for only certain types of personalities.


I am sure that there are several reasons I have not even touched on, but when I come into the site every day and people are having a hard time filling games there is a problem. It only takes about 20 people to run the games on this site, but the site has been experiencing down time for the past 6 months that it has never had before. I think if you read everything I wrote you can get the site going again, but it will take some time. Anyways, it is sad to go from a community that was 3000 strong to having a 200 people fill during peak hours and a night crew. This sad post doesn't need to have any fun in it. The amount of people who complain about everything ... takes a deep breath ... the negativity will just make people run from this place. I think you can read through the lines to see how to fix everything. Tah tah.

We are not having fun here ... f t s ... we put a knife in it.
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almost 7 years

blacksnakemoan says

3. there's a bunch of brand new mods, and the only thing we've been harsher on that i can see is hate speech, which isn't really a debatable topic unless you're a skinhead or a bigot :-)

5. yeah, EM's always been that way, and it's a major reason i've had no friends on this site in eight years. that won't change. people here are elitist.


haha no friends
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TLDR: Em is dying and it's all the mods fault. e.e
almost 7 years
I get that this site is dead and I wish I found this years ago but would It be such a bad idea if the whole thing looked a bit more modern and up to date. Even stuff like new roles and , also the gameplay is so repetitive, pretty sure 90% of the time I'm playing classic or gnh or fp, 5% I'm playing jfk 3% I'm playing take me to grannies and the rest is other stuff. Comp is also repetitive in terms of setups imo 2.

I would enjoy it if there was a wider range of setups that don't take 12 people to fill.

Also thinking of town of salem I'm gonna post in the forums about this site which I know wont get much people over here but it may get a few. Worth a shot anyway

I don't know if this is possible either but if u guys could make a mobile app for this site it may also get a few more people in, u would definitely have to change how it works tho. Mafia mystery and other mafia mobile apps aren't that active, but it would still bring in some people that may stay.
almost 7 years
3.) Total Mod rehaul, you get new mods all the time, you have mods that shouldn't be mods anymore who are ruining the site cause they are crap at the job. And I am talking about years and years ago when it switched to the current ban policies on gt, the months of being banned is bs, now it is catching up and you are banning users who play a lot. If you take a user out who happens to help your games fill more so as an aid to the site than the 3 times the gted, you kill the site. You've done that to too many users. Those users make friends, so it isn't just that you took a powerful user out, you insulted them and their friends see that and don't want to be here either. That kind of influence is the reason why no one wants me to be a mod, for years it has been that you are all too afraid I'd be too powerful, that has been said to me at least 12 times by mods. Let's face it, corrupt mods go out of their way to ban users that make them feel inferior.
almost 7 years

Showboat says

town of salem had much better marketing. lucid never desired to expand this website to anything but a side hobby.

almost 7 years
Oh come on, site's slow now cause it's not summer. On prime time there are about 15 unranked rooms of new players circlejerking each other, 1/3rd of which stays and gets into ranked and later on comp. This site is actually less elitist than it used to be and its only problem is lack of advertising which is a given since the owner doens't care.

P.S: 80% of the userbase never cared about the forum drama, that's always been part of the circlejerk u seem to hate so much
almost 7 years
3. there's a bunch of brand new mods, and the only thing we've been harsher on that i can see is hate speech, which isn't really a debatable topic unless you're a skinhead or a bigot :-)

5. yeah, EM's always been that way, and it's a major reason i've had no friends on this site in eight years. that won't change. people here are elitist.
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town of salem had much better marketing. lucid never desired to expand this website to anything but a side hobby.
almost 7 years
NO fun!