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Why Is Epic Mafia Dying?

MafiaGod

almost 7 years

The reason this site has stayed alive for so long is because:

1.) It has had seasons of ups and downs.

2.) It engaged foreign countries during a time when good free games were hard to find.

3.) The circulation of the mod team and it's drama was worth grabbing some pop-corn and watching.

4.) We had villains who were worth watching as well. And heroes.

5.) We were able to engage in new players with the mentorship program and people felt invited.

6.) Epic Mafia was new and exciting for all people who came here.

So if those are the reasons it was thriving what is happening today that is killing it.

1.) We've been in a down slump for far too long. The way we've been getting out of it for the past couple of years is that the mods have been coming in and being a light to the community Our current mods are so focused on finding anyone who even looks like they slightly cheated and just banning them and the accusation of one person. The mods are also using threats and accusing people of having witnesses against them in order to confess things that are not true or half truths that make them seem like they cheated, despite their own statement. Strong arming is not ok and people don't feel safe around a gestapho mod team.

2.) Foreigners have moved onto different free games. They see a bunch of whinning babies on this site who complain too much and they do not want to stay. They do not see an inviting community that is cohesive together. No one wants to be part of a community that is bickering constantly.

3.) We have current mods who have been in the position for too long and need to take 6 months off. They have banned so many people they have lost their trust in the community. It happens. It is part of the job. At the same time the current mod team is so violent in their actions that no one wants to watch it. Years ago when the violation policy was changed to be more harsh several of us said that it was too harsh and we have been waiting for EpicMafia to run into that buzz saw. All it would take is one bad mod team that is too controlling to use it poorly to start to destroy the trust of the community. We are seeing that happen.

4.) This site is hated so much now that in the past two months the normal villains that would cause some pretty interesting drama have left. Now we are reduced to watch certain factions rise up and try to fight the mod team or the website in other ways. Some of the fake accounts leading this crappy charge would suprize you. Some of them are even mods themselves current and not so distantly removed. Some of them are your favorite players. Regardless, it is the crappiest villain drama I've seen on epic for years, since edark. It doesn't help when several of the new heroes that have come on the scene are banned by the mods just because of one accusation.

5.) I hear some new players who talk about how hard it was to get into this community. If that is the case then that means 90% of the new people who join the site are not staying. I brought this up to a mod and they shot it down thinking it wasn't true. This is where your mentorship team comes in and runs things and helps the site grow, but that old practice has been shot down and the mentorship team has been reduced to an inaffective and inactive team of circle-jerkers like the mod team.

6.) Let's face it. With the way gaming is changing, EpicMafia is a game that was established in 2009 off of a 1997 internet gaming platform. Everything has changed about free online gaming; and EpicMafia doesn't meet the cut anymore. There isn't a video chat ranked system. The adds on the site just make it look horrible. This style of game play is made for only certain types of personalities.

I am sure that there are several reasons I have not even touched on, but when I come into the site every day and people are having a hard time filling games there is a problem. It only takes about 20 people to run the games on this site, but the site has been experiencing down time for the past 6 months that it has never had before. I think if you read everything I wrote you can get the site going again, but it will take some time. Anyways, it is sad to go from a community that was 3000 strong to having a 200 people fill during peak hours and a night crew. This sad post doesn't need to have any fun in it. The amount of people who complain about everything ... takes a deep breath ... the negativity will just make people run from this place. I think you can read through the lines to see how to fix everything. Tah tah.

We are not having fun here ... f t s ... we put a knife in it.

No fun

Zhuorb

almost 7 years

If you want any attention whatsoever just write a thousand word post detailing the same points being cycled for the past year and half.

nicoleyrenaa

almost 7 years

em is dying because of all us old users we keep complaining and being negative. The new people then get on here and feel like its toxic and then they either troll, leave, or become more toxic. There used to be groupchats and drama and fun things to do. I wouldn't blame the mods, they're trying yknow? I'd blame all of us. If you bring the energy down then it'll reflect onto the site.

Flygon

almost 7 years

MafiaGod says

by keeping such filth around.

dude aren't you like a 30 year old divorcee. don't you have bigger priorities

Sith

almost 7 years

4 - I am not going to bring you the evidence. If edark or other older mods wants to be real with you, but they probably won't, Katie, ucklar, and other old mods completely have said that to me several times, I have too much influence to be a mod. It was probably even said to me before you ever joined the site. edark has hated me for years. (I do not have as much influence as I used to cause I let it all go. It wasn't worth having anyway. Fighting against you has been the biggest waste of time. But if you can listen to any criticism maybe it can help.) Listen, the qualities you look for in finding detectives is great and all, but you seriously do not look for people who actually do understand complete fairness. Mods have assumed for years that I would be too bias and favor friends .... you obviously do not know me. If anything happen while I was a role mod it was because I found the accusations behind the scenes against Charlie and Nobody to be more real than not. It caught me in a cross fire and I had to engage with people outside of the team. When mods lose their integrity it destroys the whole team. Your predessors are right, I'd be too powerful. I'd fix so much of your dramatic sh!t that no one would want to be here and mods would be dropped on a dime when they screwed up the way you've allowed them to.

5 - Bebop - learn how to ... not self identify with an idea.

MafiaGod

almost 7 years

@Nathan

1 - I witnessed a lot of as a role mod that was garbage. I do not need evidence to proclaim what I know is truth. And let's face it, Nathan, you encouraged those mods to do it and continue doing it. Don't bother trying to blow smoke up my a55. I am not going to bring evidence to the table, because I am not going to act like a lil bish who needs a pastebin to prove everything that happens on epicmafia. The mods I am accusing are Nobody and Charlie; and that is only cause I watched them do this. The rest of the team and you yourself are compromised by keeping such filth around.

2 - The fact that you responded means I struck a nerve you couldn't let go. And you seriously responded regardless.

3 - Thanks for the updated info on the mentor system. If it works at all, you can still use it for new users most likely. And if you want to go that direction you can use it to help build the site when you see new users struggling to get into enough unranked games to join a real one.

Bebop

almost 7 years

galaxy brain: bebop love thread

Flygon

almost 7 years

broke: mod hate thread

woke: mod Love thread

Bebop

almost 7 years

i like how u act like this was all for attention when the community collectively calls ur thread dumb

MafiaGod

almost 7 years

If you want any attention whatsoever just create a mod hate thread.

SuperNova

almost 7 years

Rydia says

I think we've gotten a lot more gay friendly since 2009 and that's a good thing because it means the quality of individuals joining in to play has risen considerably

There aren't as many genuinely hurtful trolls around as there was 6-7 years ago but that might be because i was 17 and one of those genuinely hurtful edgy trolls

but hey look at me now i'm a big boy player with a serious face and a big hard cockatoo ready to ram my win condition to orgasm

My impact.

LioneI

almost 7 years

MonteCarrlo says

the weebs are causing the demise. Notice, what do weebs add to the website? All they do is watch anime, it is so infuriating. And then they have those avatars with weeb girls and new players want to flirt with them, but they find out they are getting catfished, and they leave.

Weebs, let me tell you something. That anime girl you have a crush on was created by a FORTY YEAR OLD MAN, so you have a crush on a forty year old man? If you love the creation of something, you love the creator. You love forty year old men. The weebs need to go into hiding, change their avatars and stop shoving their weeb motives into our face. If you want to be a weeb, do it in secret. Ban all weeb material, including avatars, anime songs, anime discussion, anime clips, etc on the website and I guarantee you it will get better. Also, replace all the mods and appoint a singular ruler. In times of crisis, the Romans appointed a Dictator to take over the city and defend it. Epicmafia is in a time of crisis, so strong action needs to be taken. Demod all mods and ban them from the game, as well. Let them feel the pain they cast onto the innocent. As for that strong ruler, we must find a man of strong moral character who has the drive to bring back the website, and that man is LioneI.

aww thanks man.

MonteCarrlo

almost 7 years

the weebs are causing the demise. Notice, what do weebs add to the website? All they do is watch anime, it is so infuriating. And then they have those avatars with weeb girls and new players want to flirt with them, but they find out they are getting catfished, and they leave.

Weebs, let me tell you something. That anime girl you have a crush on was created by a FORTY YEAR OLD MAN, so you have a crush on a forty year old man? If you love the creation of something, you love the creator. You love forty year old men. The weebs need to go into hiding, change their avatars and stop shoving their weeb motives into our face. If you want to be a weeb, do it in secret. Ban all weeb material, including avatars, anime songs, anime discussion, anime clips, etc on the website and I guarantee you it will get better. Also, replace all the mods and appoint a singular ruler. In times of crisis, the Romans appointed a Dictator to take over the city and defend it. Epicmafia is in a time of crisis, so strong action needs to be taken. Demod all mods and ban them from the game, as well. Let them feel the pain they cast onto the innocent. As for that strong ruler, we must find a man of strong moral character who has the drive to bring back the website, and that man is jake100.

Shoopie

almost 7 years

Flygon

almost 7 years

damn my status of resident lucidrains hater isn't more apparent these days

when i say admin i mean lucid

Shoopie

almost 7 years

I just don't agree with that you said. Nathan does his best with the resources he has available to him.

Flygon says

"mods are the reason the bus is crashing, even though the driver is asleep at the wheel"

I agreed with this.

Flygon

almost 7 years

Flygon says

like. a bad mod team (not referring to any in particular, for the record) is a symptom of a bad admin. you're blaming a side effect of having a bad admin instead of blaming the admin. you coughing up blood isn't making you sick, the lung cancer is.

shoopie negged this post. they are going to lose some ranks in my excel sheet

deletedalmost 7 years

Bebop can you tell me the name of that other format?

deletedalmost 7 years

Bebop says

vilden

almost 7 years

Rofl that was amazing, Rydia

Rydia

almost 7 years

I think we've gotten a lot more gay friendly since 2009 and that's a good thing because it means the quality of individuals joining in to play has risen considerably

There aren't as many genuinely hurtful trolls around as there was 6-7 years ago but that might be because i was 17 and one of those genuinely hurtful edgy trolls

but hey look at me now i'm a big boy player with a serious face and a big hard cockatoo ready to ram my win condition to orgasm

vilden

almost 7 years

MafiaGod says