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Why Is Epic Mafia Dying?

almost 7 years

The reason this site has stayed alive for so long is because:

1.) It has had seasons of ups and downs.

2.) It engaged foreign countries during a time when good free games were hard to find.

3.) The circulation of the mod team and it's drama was worth grabbing some pop-corn and watching.

4.) We had villains who were worth watching as well. And heroes.

5.) We were able to engage in new players with the mentorship program and people felt invited.

6.) Epic Mafia was new and exciting for all people who came here.


So if those are the reasons it was thriving what is happening today that is killing it.

1.) We've been in a down slump for far too long. The way we've been getting out of it for the past couple of years is that the mods have been coming in and being a light to the community Our current mods are so focused on finding anyone who even looks like they slightly cheated and just banning them and the accusation of one person. The mods are also using threats and accusing people of having witnesses against them in order to confess things that are not true or half truths that make them seem like they cheated, despite their own statement. Strong arming is not ok and people don't feel safe around a gestapho mod team.

2.) Foreigners have moved onto different free games. They see a bunch of whinning babies on this site who complain too much and they do not want to stay. They do not see an inviting community that is cohesive together. No one wants to be part of a community that is bickering constantly.

3.) We have current mods who have been in the position for too long and need to take 6 months off. They have banned so many people they have lost their trust in the community. It happens. It is part of the job. At the same time the current mod team is so violent in their actions that no one wants to watch it. Years ago when the violation policy was changed to be more harsh several of us said that it was too harsh and we have been waiting for EpicMafia to run into that buzz saw. All it would take is one bad mod team that is too controlling to use it poorly to start to destroy the trust of the community. We are seeing that happen.

4.) This site is hated so much now that in the past two months the normal villains that would cause some pretty interesting drama have left. Now we are reduced to watch certain factions rise up and try to fight the mod team or the website in other ways. Some of the fake accounts leading this crappy charge would suprize you. Some of them are even mods themselves current and not so distantly removed. Some of them are your favorite players. Regardless, it is the crappiest villain drama I've seen on epic for years, since edark. It doesn't help when several of the new heroes that have come on the scene are banned by the mods just because of one accusation.

5.) I hear some new players who talk about how hard it was to get into this community. If that is the case then that means 90% of the new people who join the site are not staying. I brought this up to a mod and they shot it down thinking it wasn't true. This is where your mentorship team comes in and runs things and helps the site grow, but that old practice has been shot down and the mentorship team has been reduced to an inaffective and inactive team of circle-jerkers like the mod team.

6.) Let's face it. With the way gaming is changing, EpicMafia is a game that was established in 2009 off of a 1997 internet gaming platform. Everything has changed about free online gaming; and EpicMafia doesn't meet the cut anymore. There isn't a video chat ranked system. The adds on the site just make it look horrible. This style of game play is made for only certain types of personalities.


I am sure that there are several reasons I have not even touched on, but when I come into the site every day and people are having a hard time filling games there is a problem. It only takes about 20 people to run the games on this site, but the site has been experiencing down time for the past 6 months that it has never had before. I think if you read everything I wrote you can get the site going again, but it will take some time. Anyways, it is sad to go from a community that was 3000 strong to having a 200 people fill during peak hours and a night crew. This sad post doesn't need to have any fun in it. The amount of people who complain about everything ... takes a deep breath ... the negativity will just make people run from this place. I think you can read through the lines to see how to fix everything. Tah tah.

We are not having fun here ... f t s ... we put a knife in it.
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MafiaGod says

a time when good free games were hard to find.


Are you saying that back in the day, you couldn't find one free game better than epicmafia? What about Monolopy or something
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saladbrain says

how did everyone even find this game? I embarrassingly found it looking up the rules for the party game of maf... like interacting with people face to face.. you sick fricks ruined me.


I found it after I played the card game at uni then I went home and looked for a site for it. I found this, hated it because I didn't know how to get in a game because iterally no one was playing unranked for me to join, so I left and looked on the app store where I found Mafia Mystery. It has grown a lot since back then but there was probably 200 then and idk how much it is now I think it would be over 1000.

Then I was in a game on MafiaMystery and someone told me about town of salem. I then spent most of my time there, then I looked up mafia mystery online bc there was word they were gonna start a site now, but Instead I found Epicmafia and I registered with an account idek what my one before JollyGoodGuyGod was called, but here I am.
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saladbrain says

how did everyone even find this game? I embarrassingly found it looking up the rules for the party game of maf... like interacting with people face to face.. you sick fricks ruined me.


I found this site from google. First i found it in 2009, but I didnt understand it really. And found it again in 2012. I played the Aol Instant Messager Mafia Game "Cry_Wolf" in 2004-2005 it and loved mafia ever since then.
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Site isnt dieing. The reason why we arnt adding new players at the clip we used to is because no one plays SitD anymore. SitD is the setup that most new players play, and helps them meet people and learn the site.
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Why did this shxt get stickied
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how did everyone even find this game? I embarrassingly found it looking up the rules for the party game of maf... like interacting with people face to face.. you sick fricks ruined me.
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Zhuorb says

ArcMafia's been under operation for about a year now; it's been pinching ten users per day. Where are you guys


i paid the $59 membership fee in november but arc said it can take awhile to clear. i'll be there soon!!
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ArcMafia's been under operation for about a year now; it's been pinching ten users per day. Where are you guys
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pranay for mod
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didn't you hear giga? that was verbatim arcbell's plan
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Can someone just steal lucid's code and make a different epicmafia so that we have an active owner or owner(s)

Don't worry about copyright, he's too busy to notice
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Make user LioneI admin, I support them.
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like. a bad mod team (not referring to any in particular, for the record) is a symptom of a bad admin. you're blaming a side effect of having a bad admin instead of blaming the admin. you coughing up blood isn't making you sick, the lung cancer is.
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"mods are the reason the bus is crashing, even though the driver is asleep at the wheel"
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control f mods and replace every usage with lucid
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Quite honestly, the moment you compared the mod team to the Gestapo, any validity and any desire I had to seriously respond to this thread was lost so hats off to Bebop.

I forgot who's thread I commented this in but if you're going to write a thread like this, at least make sure you're factually accurate and include any supporting examples. There's a flaw in the mentor/mentee system code, that until lucid decides he wants to fix it, means we're not running that particular program. In fact, a lot of the problems do stem from a lack of communication between lucid and us but hey, that's not in our control. What is in your control is being the difference you want to see. Don't be all talk. I didn't need a mentor hat to offer help to new people back in the day. And who's strong-arming? Who's 'taking out users'? Is anyone shutting down your heavy-handed, erroneous swipe at all mods?

And I can assure you no one's afraid that you'd be too powerful, and I'm pretty sure no one on my mod teams has ever conveyed that notion to you so I'm not sure where you dreamed that up. The reason why you haven't modded under me is because I saw no qualities I wanted on my team when Edark and I did a mod interview with you.
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Bebop says

i understand he's cautious about who he entrusts the site to but at the same time, lailai happened.



ops lol

dont forget error aswell haha xd
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i agree with some of your points but overall i think you're off the mark and laying too much of the blame at the feet of the mods. maybe that's because i'm a mod myself, but i can't really be held responsible for what the other mods do unless your complaint is with me directly.
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mods strongarming ppl with stuff like ur suggesting is wrong but i don't think it goes on as much as you think it does unless they're just doing it and not talking about it

i'd say a big problem is that we've consistently had only one admin (who's pretty burned out understandably after being the only person around to lead the team) for ages, lucid doesn't appoint a second admin often enough and when he does they're the wrong picks (take a look at lailai). i understand he's cautious about who he entrusts the site to but at the same time, lailai happened.

and i 100% agree with you that the game is too hard to get into, the site is very unfriendly towards new users but that's a culture that's been established on the site over a long period of time and is pretty hard to rectify
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PeePoop says


Volta says


PeePoop says

EM is dying because CYAN is a pickable colour for game text but it's a reportable offence in ALL games ???


I can also pick to say bad words and get reported for it.


you being salty you have 5 vios is the reason EM is dead


If you were a true fan you would know I have 6

https://epicmafia.com/report/247643
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Volta says


PeePoop says

EM is dying because CYAN is a pickable colour for game text but it's a reportable offence in ALL games ???


I can also pick to say bad words and get reported for it.


you being salty you have 5 vios is the reason EM is dead
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PeePoop says

EM is dying because CYAN is a pickable colour for game text but it's a reportable offence in ALL games ???


I can also pick to say bad words and get reported for it.
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EM is dying because CYAN is a pickable colour for game text but it's a reportable offence in ALL games ???