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So there's been a lot of shooting recently and the president isnt doing about it.

Australia had its worst mass shooting in 1996 on the 28th of April. 12 days later australia announced a bipartisan deal on sweeping gun control measures. The government brought back and destroyed over a million guns. We (australia) haven't had a mass shooting since.

Why is Trump not doing anything. Children are dying. People aren't living their full lives. If comforting those who have been through trauma and lost loved ones is all they can do b*llfucking sh*t. If saying it will be okay to those victims then saying that to gun owners should be fine too.

Sorry im just annoyed with how this has all been going down.

Should gun control be changed?
89
Yes
16
No
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Shoopie says

I tried linking it before but failed miserably.

Jim Jefferies has a pretty funny Gun Control segment for his comedy act. I think it's what made him famous. Worth checking checking it out.


John Oliver's one is better
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ivana says

Okay let me make myself clear for those who don't understand.

I am FOR the 2nd Amendment. BUT, there needs to be restrictions, or more children and adults will die.


I mean it’s pretty obvious what the first step needs to be ....

Making idiots understand that they can’t fight the government with their guns

2 stopping the manufacture of new weapons
3 banning all military grade assault rifles and only allowing handguns and your little hunting rifles / shotguns

U aren’t ever going to stop school shootings, u give the other side an easy rebuttals when you make a blanket statement “stop children from dying”
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560 replies in just 48 hours. Wow.
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I tried linking it before but failed miserably.

Jim Jefferies has a pretty funny Gun Control segment for his comedy act. I think it's what made him famous. Worth checking checking it out.
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ivana says

Okay let me make myself clear for those who don't understand.

I am FOR the 2nd Amendment. BUT, there needs to be restrictions, or more children and adults will die.


now THATS a controversial opinion
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Okay let me make myself clear for those who don't understand.

I am FOR the 2nd Amendment. BUT, there needs to be restrictions, or more children and adults will die.
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Y’all let “something” successfully derail this thread while I was away I see
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do u not understand that capitalism has a material, objective way it works, and that way was developeded to supercede feudalism with the goal of making a freer manking, you are the one talking idealism im talking about the material way in wich capitalism operates and the objective history of capitalism
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to say that apologists to capital, changed what they THINK capitalism goals are, doesnt change the past, doenst change the grounds on wich the system was implemented on and it doesnt change the fact capitalism is a failure and will always be it is designed to be
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somethingwhatever says

Adam smith capitalism isnt the same as modern day capitalism. He had different views on what had value.
Adam smith capitalism isnt the same as modern day capitalism. He had different views on what had value.
Adam smith capitalism isnt the same as modern day capitalism. He had different views on what had value.

uk my man, there is something called objective truth,, and it doesnt care about ur stupid a$$ ideas, its the same capitalism is the same goddamn history is the same goddamn mode of production, it is still a system based off the appropriation of surplus value, what kind of use value they are producing doesnt matter, why are they doing and to who, is all insignificant, still is the same mode of production u absolute moron


The way its applied is exactly how they want it to work. Youre getting caught up on the idealism of it. Adam smith ideal of capitalism isnt anywhere close to what is being applied.

Same with all the "communists" countries. They apply what they want to apply to benefit who they want to benefit.
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the thing about adam smith and david ricardo is they didnt understand where profit came from, amongst other things, they belived under capitalism you'd get paid for what you produce, but thats not what happens what happens is you are paid for labour power, not your actual labour, so you work lets say 5 hours to produce enough value to pay your own salary and then you work the rest of the day to produce surplus product wich its value its not given to you but rather appropriate by the capitalist, it is robbery by any other name and that is why capitalism was flawed in its persue to for a freer world, because it is a system based on theft
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Adam smith capitalism isnt the same as modern day capitalism. He had different views on what had value.
Adam smith capitalism isnt the same as modern day capitalism. He had different views on what had value.
Adam smith capitalism isnt the same as modern day capitalism. He had different views on what had value.

uk my man, there is something called objective truth,, and it doesnt care about ur stupid a$$ ideas, its the same capitalism is the same goddamn history is the same goddamn mode of production, it is still a system based off the appropriation of surplus value, what kind of use value they are producing doesnt matter, why are they doing and to who, is all insignificant, still is the same mode of production u absolute moron
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It's all the same when you're trying to sound like you're above everyone else.
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projectmatt says


Warrens says

although i agree with pjm, imperialized individuals have no other options lmfao. its either appeal to ur oppressors, or put them in a situation where they have no choice but to change


it's true, and that's why i support a revolution when the working class is united enough to rebel, which they aren't right now.

It's still super annoying to see leftists talk about about the revolution like it will be fun, though, or saying anyone not leftist enough should "get the wall" or "go to gulags", though


those are extremists, not leftists.
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or NK wich is juche and doesnt claim to want to establish communism, they r also a sucess
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"They have adapted what they want and reached that goal with no interest of making another. Where commie thinkers havent changed what they want their end goal to be its the same its always been."
this is stupid, by this argument china is a sucessful socialist country because xi jinping says its working as its supposed to
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Warrens says

although i agree with pjm, imperialized individuals have no other options lmfao. its either appeal to ur oppressors, or put them in a situation where they have no choice but to change


it's true, and that's why i support a revolution when the working class is united enough to rebel, which they aren't right now.

It's still super annoying to see leftists talk about about the revolution like it will be fun, though, or saying anyone not leftist enough should "get the wall" or "go to gulags", though
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They have adapted what they want and reached that goal with no interest of making another. Where commie thinkers havent changed what they want their end goal to be its the same its always been.

Why arent we talking about dead school kids anymore. Are you protecting big pharma? Is that what this is?
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somehow i'm glad that this was derailed by communism instead of anyone's weird personal vendettas
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capital hasnt change is modus operandus since its foundation, only the defense for it has
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god thats such crap u wrote ofc the current thinkers think capitalism works they way its supposed to or else they wouldnt be the current thinkers
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CAPITALISTS HAVE BY DEFENITION TO WORK INSIDE CAPITALISM
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billionaires cant change capitalism dingus and changing ideas doenst change material way in wich capital operates
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poop
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somethingwhatever says

goddamn it, if i said that about xin jinping 1000 ppl would appear and gang me


I dont think saying ideas change is anything new.

Same with everything applications changes peoples views. People were protectionists in their own countries but pushed for a free market/capitalism in other.

In more recent times capitalists dropped the charade that they werent profit maximizers. People like Rockefeller, Rothchilds eyc.

I dont even like the way capitalism is practiced. I actually have a problem with a lot of tenants and the idea of individualism.

But basically its working exactly the way the current thinkers want it too.