Introduction
As of now, most (if not all moderators) provide no reason at all when they violate or no-violate a player.
Why should this be changed?
It is quite obvious what power the moderators is given by basically letting them do what they want without even giving an explanation why they took a certain measurement. Namely:
Favor friends and moderators
Disadvantage people they do not like
Manipulate the competitive play
What are possible disadvantages?
The only disadvantage I found so far is that mods have to put greater effort into dealing with reports. And with "greater" I mean appending one (!) more sentence that explains why one has taken that measurement. It shouldn't be much of an issue because a moderator clearly knows why they violate a player, they just need to write down their thoughts about it :)
Can we, vanilla users, change anything about it?
Perhaps. If there is a wide range of players who would wish to apply such a change to moderating rules, they might as well think about doing so. For this purpose, I have created a little poll in which you can have your voice about this matter.
~ Your one and only MarcellDavis
Enforce providing reasons when giving a violation or a NV?
late soz i don't come to forums ever, but here's my two cents
if you don't understand why you got vio'd or why a report got no vio'd, you can pm the mod who handled your report and i'm sure they'll get back to you whenever they can, so i don't see why that's not an acceptable option unless you're trolling and spamming the pms, repeating your questions, then ok you deserve to be ignored
however for the reports/explanation, i feel like if the mod in question wants to explain why they made that decision for stuff that isn't so obvious, then yeah, go ahead but it shouldn't be a necessity. there's always a possibility that some users will abuse it in some way
also, mods have lives (what a shocker) and if an explanation was a 100% necessity for every single report, including the obv ones, then the processing of reports would be a lot slower and it'd slow down the process entirely. should be a personal decision since we don't know how much time a mod has when it comes to doing reports, etc yadda yadda
god i can't believe it shows me deleting my typos and editing it i hate my life i just realised i could edit comments ok bye
late soz i don't come to forums ever, but here's my two cents
if you don't understand why you got vio'd or why a report got no vio'd, you can pm the mod who handled your report and i'm sure they'll get back to you whenever they can, so i don't see why that's not an acceptable option unless you're trolling and spamming the pms, repeating your questions, then ok you deserve to be ignored
however for the reports/explanation, i feel like if the mod in question wants to explain why they made that decision for stuff that isn't so obvious, then yeah, go ahead but it shouldn't be a necessity. there's always a possibility that some users will abuse it in some way
also, mods have lives (what a shocker) and if an explanation was a 100% necessary for every report, including the obv ones, then the processing of reports would be a lot slower and it'd slow down the process entirely. should be a personal decision since we don't know how much time a mod has when it comes to doing reports, etc yadda yadda
now i'm off to bed after typing up wall of text, have a great day everyone!
deletedabout 7 years
You moderators are so pathetic. You say you are getting way too many reports, yet you keep saying "just appeal if you aren't happy with the decision or want to find out why the moderator decided that way" which results in even more reports lmao.
And why do you think there are so many reports? I suppose one possible culprit is that people are unable to determine whether or not their report is actually useful, because they are never provided reasons why a person was V'd or NV'd exactly. There might be a bunch of trolls and troll reports outta, but its only a fraction compared to the "real" and "serious" reports.
Let's be real - The users themselves will not do jack until the point at which the moderator team decides to improve the situation...
Edit: People forget that this site is huge and running 24/7 due to the fact that people from all over the world play here. Why do you keep complaining about "we're too few, too much work, we're burned out" and actually don't do jack to improve it? Weird.
deletedabout 7 years
no dude there is already only a few mods who do reports dont give them more work wtf and theres so many damn reports
This is an example of a report handled very well with a written description about the verdict. I 100% would have appealed this verdict, but I did not merely because the report showed me why he did not do it, and I did not report another game later that was similar because of this.
an explanation would really cut down your work load a lot in the long run..
deletedabout 7 years
again you guys no vio things that should be a vio and vio things that should be a no vio. abc getting a vio for rsing when he played to win is an example (there was no intent which is required for gt according to the actual rules). There is no consistency between report verdicts and the site rules!!
I don't want to get into the report spam stuff at all, as this thread is not about this. My actual "report spam" was all due to a misunderstanding...
Well there you go.. you admitted that you report everything and you hope something sticks.. so I think we all agree that the report spam vio was deserved Now about knowing what is reportable and what isn’t, have you tried reading the rules page? It explains everything and I assume you’re smart enough to figure out what is a vio and what isn’t once you read that
deletedabout 7 years
vilden asked what I did too and got no reply. You cant blame this problem on me...
deletedabout 7 years
how do we tell an admin when there was no admin for months?
I legit think it would stop so many reports. I at least would appeal like 1/2 as much and I would learn what is reportable or not. Now you guys just no vio everything so I report everything and hope something sticks :) With my reports, there seems to be more of a correlation with the verdict and who I am reporting (and who looked at the report) than with what they actually did wrong :(
I don’t believe you would’ve been ignored, but I do believe ignoring you is a better option than trying to reason with you.. because after 1839928328 minutes of trying to explain what we are doing, you’ll be back to square 1 asking the same question again and making threads about it
deletedabout 7 years
go through reports. anthony is like the main person actually giving a reason. Bebop gave me a note for something. I asked him to explain what I did wrong in a mail, but I got no reply. Vilden appealed the report and said to make it a vio so I would know what I actually did wrong, but it again was closed with no information
this whole mod team is a circle jerk with charley as the ring leader. They make up * for people and cant explain it, so they don't give reasons. They need a good admin, but I am afraid it will only become more of a circle jerk with charley in charge
i think if anything this'd lead to more appeals, and if mods ignore your private messages that consistently you should probably tell an admin if it concerns you. this idea sounds good in theory but in practice i don't think it'd work well.
deletedabout 7 years
90% of the time I email them to ask why on a verdict, I am completely ignored. Like if they would have taken the time to explain it, I would have had less reports
It would immediately cause burn out if implemented, but in the long term the reports would drop a lot I think. You can also just appoint more mods to begin with to cut down the load
