Imagine thinking rejecting a mission was a red flag lmfao. I rejected the first one last time because it had two scum and I didn't want both my partners added. This is literally the complete opposite as it failed and likely had one scum. You're showing absolutely 0 semblance of actual thought. I'm blatant town in this game and it's ludicrous that people are dodging me on their town teams.

I mean as I said if you really think I'm evil don't put me in the next one get the data w/e you need

Um so I rejected b/c everyone else was too asdfkjf. And then I didn't put myself at first because I didn't think it through but once people mentioned it I got it. And then I switched up the people b/c you and ally had talked in the thread adskjfasdjk

@Sonia

I feel you it's just a vibe I'm getting. Bryce could still really be evil but what I said was what my gut told me in the first place.

I feel like this was a giant set up from Bryce because I don't know why he put me on the mission in the first place maybe he did just because he saw I asked and wanted to put me on to frame me and that's my best guess.

I don't really see why everyone townreads Ally I don't think she's evil per say but I don't get the "oh I trust her!" bit

Thoughts:
1. I think it's interesting how many people were pretty quick to reject this mission considering that we still don't have a lot to go off of, especially considering none of these people were in the first mission. It's especially interesting that two of the people who rejected it were Claire and Bryce, who are the most suspect from the previous mission.

So with that in mind, I accept considering the mission isn't dead in the water just yet.

2. My main red flag for Bryce is not putting himself in the mission initially, and then when instructed to he added two completely different people from what he originally had. It's almost like he wanted to manoevre it that he would have an evil on the team either way, but not in such a way that if we ever found out he was the evil one that we'd know immediately that the person he took off to put himself on the team was also such.

3. I have a red flag and a white flag for Jeff. The red flag is that he rejected the initial mission with an evil on it, the exact same thing he did last game - probably to make himself look smarter when it failed. The white flag is that he also told Bryce to put himself on the team, something he had no interest doing last game.

4. I ultimately think both Jeff and Lelmoo are good. Part of this is point 1, part of this is I think this is just how Jeff plays.

5. Despite being on the failing first mission, I would be okay with Ally still being on missions. Everything about Claire and Bryce are much more suspect than her at this moment.

I reckon Myself/Lelmoo/Ally/Markus

Lelmoo says

WITH that said I'd do markus/ultra/myself/ally. I feel pretty strong about those four as of now!

I would be very comfortable going for this team suggestion.

xSoniaNeverMindx says

I think if I was to pick a team I'd put me otherscott flip and one of jeff/lelmoo.

Definitely do not agree with this team suggestion hahahahaha

Alright, well that's 4 rejects. I am fine with it being rejected, though I really think every time someone rejects a mission they should suggest an alternative team in its place. That way we can weed out anyone who is rejecting for no reason, or for whatever ulterior motives they may have. Also it means people can't squirm their way out of being responsible for if a mission gets rejected, then another one accepted which then results in a failure.

Jeff, I don't agree with Scott nor bryce on your mission suggestion. Mainly I disagree with Scott, I don't think he's been townie, and if there are 3 evil people in the list of 7 I mentioned earlier, I am not confident he's not one of them. Bryce I could probably deal with if push came to shove, but I am interested as to why you think it's Ally over Claire as scum in the mission team that failed?

Reject Uh I think everyone is rejecting and I need to send in an action ajdkfadf. But uh I think that Claire was mafia on mission 1 b/c she said it was me even tho I'm not and didn't do anything scummy. And either a mix or new team works for me :)

Markus says

Alright well let's get some discussion going.

Everyone answer the two following questions:
1. Who do you think is mafia on Mission 1? And why?
2. Are you more comfortable making a completely new team or doing a mix for mission 2? Why/why not?

I think Ally was prolly the scum with Claire second and Bryce third. Cuz that's how I feel. I'd like myself Bryce Otherscott Markus on mission 2.

Anyone who rejects, can I ask that you suggest a 4 man team to replace my proposition, just so I get where your head is at in terms of why you rejected my team.

I think if I was to pick a team I'd put me otherscott flip and one of jeff/lelmoo.

Just wanna say I made my first post so fast b/c I checked the last version of this and Elfen made their list quickly too SJKSJK

I wanted to be on the first time because I know I'm town why wouldn't I wanna be on the first team I didn't expect the mission to god dam fail if you think that's really sus of me you don't gotta put me on the next mission I just hope you still listen to my view points I feel like people just pinning this on me know I'm good but that's obv me being bias so

Although ofc its risky to put a same person who was on 1st mission but ya those are my thoughts so far

reject for obvious reasons

Hii I just woke up too!! I feel like from first mission im not necessarily sure who is evil but I think its between bryce/claire, possibly both of them. At this point I'd like to see Ally on a team bc I have a read on her that shes goodie. Also Claire comes across as sus bc her insisting to be on first team and bc of her fairly random accusation of Ultra!!!

Uh about the 2nd question im not sure yet. I sure dont want Jeff to be in it at least not yet bc I dont have a strong read on him. If u wanna do all new team I'm not sure who I'd put on bc I dont have a read on people like flippo/scott/jbomb yet.

WITH that said I'd do markus/ultra/myself/ally. I feel pretty strong about those four as of now!

Okay I am here, sorry about timezone differences etc. I agree with Markus, I reckon we could do a mixed team but we would have to be careful about WHICH people we put up, I also don't have reads yet about who is mafia so I am really open to all options that are thrown out. I do think we should try a new team with one of Sonia and Ally.

Bryce obviously picks himself to go on his own mission, so you can't read into anything there. So for me it's between sonia and ally. I think ally is probably more town of the two, but we havent seen enough imo to make a suspicion that isn't pure BS - though BS suspicions are how I play games. Therefore, I say all 3 of them are mafia and we should forfeit the game while we can.

I can start us off.

1. Ally comes across the most town, but probably because the others haven't contributed as much. At this point if a mixed mission is going to be proposed I'd want her on it.

2. Statistically it probably is better to do a mixed team. Though the risk is higher, as doing a mixed team means we can't separate potential mafia based on missions if the mission gets failed.

Alright well let's get some discussion going.

Everyone answer the two following questions:
1. Who do you think is mafia on Mission 1? And why?
2. Are you more comfortable making a completely new team or doing a mix for mission 2? Why/why not?

UltraAug says

Basically the team isn't any better than it could be otherwise but the mindset to get to the team is flawed

no.

UltraAug says

MaTh TiMe

1/3 are baddies team 1

Choosing outside 3/7 are baddies

7/21
9/21
odds of taking a baddie with everyone outside almost equal to amount of baddies on first mission

Mix both is 4/10

8/20

3, 4, and 4.5

Chances are practically equal

This is probably flawed but I think it gets the point across

Basically we have a 1/2 chance or so to fall upon a baddie no matter what we do, not taking into account reads on people

this is very flawed. if you take a tr from mission one you drastically increase your chances. stop avoiding hard things people. we have to find scum not hide from having to work with that first mission. we can't get info from it if we just bury it, otherwise we'll have a 1/3 and a 1/4 on failed missions and have 0 info to go a perfect 3/3 in last three missionsfkjsgfhdbskpl