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Round 552 Discussion

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Congratulations to the winners of Round 541!


Ra1nyDay

Setups


scumhuntmachine

Setups


MrTerryTibbs

Setups

  • tbd
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Good luck to the participants of Round 552! Sorry for all the troubles in between!

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Mod deletes report filed against themselves and other mods help him cover it up by spamming the mod actions. Great job guys. I can see how much integrity you guys have in your real life activity too.
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r­etarded b­itches up in this b
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Recidivism says

Some might think it's re.tarded to be offended by the word re.tarded but not by a man calling his wife a b!tch


but calling someone a b.tch is pretty offensive to the b.tch you're insulting because that's the point of calling the person a b.tch?

and the word ret.arded probably shouldn't be used offensively because people who actually have mental retardation are excluded enough as it is. So i guess ideally it wouldn't be offensive, and b!tch would be.
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yo, pierre, you wanna come out here?
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Some might think it's re.tarded to be offended by the word re.tarded but not by a man calling his wife a b!tch
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Dang connor called his girl a b!tch wtf dude
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Connor says

a&d isnt the same, theres a 1% diff, b!tch


So a&d will be allowed if there is a change in the percentage?
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devin says

https://epicmafia.com/game/6022261
game went unranked despite no sui
gimem my points


u didnt have a majority on dylan
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https://epicmafia.com/game/6022261
game went unranked despite no sui
gimem my points
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original sds is 42:57
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a&d isnt the same, theres a 1% diff, b!tch
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Enamored says

can we delete a&d, remake then comp it


i thought lucid stopped ppl making multiple of the same setup

i guess not
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No need. Wait for A&d to be within limits. Then you can comp it. So what's the limit? Sds was allowed. So if a&d is same as sds then it will be allowed right? Kerry im asking you?
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can we delete a&d, remake then comp it
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#freeA&D
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A&D is rly fun though and takes some skill as either alignment

it's sad it went so scumsided :(
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it all comes down to bad setups. bad setups should not be comped, good setups should be comped. point distribution is irrelevant. if the win percentages of a setup are imbalanced, one must understand the reason behind that imbalance and if its inherently unhealthy or not.
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panthero says


Gafgarion says


mandevian says


Gafgarion says


Zovea says

I don't get the point of banning 70 point setups. The players that can run on 70 point are better than the ones that play D1 ml setups and are dependant on the ml to make it past the first lynch. They're also so heavily skewed BECAUSE it takes effort to play them.

Punishing good players for how destructive point farming is to competitive play is the ultimate injustice. The 70 point setups aren't even unbalanced if you you remove player skill from the equation. If a D1 ml setup can't compete with with a D1 mylo setup that's also good.


I think the biggest problem is that you can't control the alignment you roll. So even if a player is really good, if they keep rolling as mafia on a 70/50 setup, a player of equal skill who keeps rolling town and winning will be far ahead of them because they'd be getting 20 points more per game. Best to have the payouts fairly even for comp, imo.


You are braindead. You can't roll mafia 30 games in a row.


Don't strawman me and then call me braindead.

Player A can roll mafia 13/30 times while player B rolls mafia 7/30 times. Such variances are expected by statistics. In this case, why should Player B get this advantage?


Lmao. I've never seen a dumb idiot like you. How is player B at an advantage? He has to win as town which is harder on scum sided setups.


You're awfully hostile today, pranay. Sorry your precious A&D can't be comped.

If your premise is that a good player can choose to play hard setups for more points, then you are admitting that if Player A and B are good players that B has the inherent advantage. Why not play setups that are relatively balanced, as are the point distributions? I see no reason to allow setups that are too tilted to be allowed in comp.
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panthero says


Gafgarion says


mandevian says


Gafgarion says


Zovea says

I don't get the point of banning 70 point setups. The players that can run on 70 point are better than the ones that play D1 ml setups and are dependant on the ml to make it past the first lynch. They're also so heavily skewed BECAUSE it takes effort to play them.

Punishing good players for how destructive point farming is to competitive play is the ultimate injustice. The 70 point setups aren't even unbalanced if you you remove player skill from the equation. If a D1 ml setup can't compete with with a D1 mylo setup that's also good.


I think the biggest problem is that you can't control the alignment you roll. So even if a player is really good, if they keep rolling as mafia on a 70/50 setup, a player of equal skill who keeps rolling town and winning will be far ahead of them because they'd be getting 20 points more per game. Best to have the payouts fairly even for comp, imo.


You are braindead. You can't roll mafia 30 games in a row.


Don't strawman me and then call me braindead.

Player A can roll mafia 13/30 times while player B rolls mafia 7/30 times. Such variances are expected by statistics. In this case, why should Player B get this advantage?


Lmao. I've never seen a dumb idiot like you. How is player B at an advantage? He has to win as town which is harder on scum sided setups.


Your whole premise for allowing unbalanced setups is so a good player can use them to get an edge in points. So if Player A and B are good players and are capable of winning consistently as town on a scumsided setup, which has the advantage over the other?

Why not restrict comp to setups where both sides are relatively even and require a similar level of skill (and payout) to consistently win?
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I remember a round where I chose to play easier setups to guarantee wins. I lost a trophy by few points even though we had the sam number of wins. Because the other guy played a few risky games and got more points. I wasn't whining about it. I knew that he deserved to be rewarded for the risk. If I wasn't too scared of the risky setup then may be I could have won. Or may be if I tried to play the risky setup and lost, I'd finish with a higher point gap.