to help you cope with this startling reality I'll explain why you're wrong if you think lobby mods are a good thing
lobby mods do not curtail the authority of site mods. site mods have and will always enforce community guidelines in the primary lobbies
although lobby mods don't replace site mods, they enforce their own biased 'rules' and only serve to punish users who wouldn't otherwise be punished for trivial nonsense
you might be drawing invalid conclusions from the fact we currently have two sandbox site mods (bebop and I guess merlot). they are not the product of lobby mods, they're site mods from sandbox and as long as sandbox has at least one site mod concerned with reports from sandbox you'll get your 'relatable' bans
if a mod is bad, it's not only sandbox's best interest for them to be demodded, it's in the interest of the whole site. and if the admin isn't working for the best interest of the site, then they clearly aren't a very good admin.
for me a concern would be that a site mod doesn't properly know how to handle sandbox and attempt to do so regardless, and i don't think an admin would care as much about that bc i don't think admins tend to care about sandbox much at all, but maybe i'm just cynical
it's really not as bad as you're making it sound for most site mods
i haven't been a site mod and wouldn't know so i'll step back and take your word for it on that one :-)
if a mod is bad, it's not only sandbox's best interest for them to be demodded, it's in the interest of the whole site. and if the admin isn't working for the best interest of the site, then they clearly aren't a very good admin.
for me a concern would be that a site mod doesn't properly know how to handle sandbox and attempt to do so regardless, and i don't think an admin would care as much about that bc i don't think admins tend to care about sandbox much at all, but maybe i'm just cynical
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how are you being lenient by banning people who haven't broken the rules
and if they have broken the rules
site mods should only be brought in for circumstances like that
i don't think you're really getting what i'm saying, and using my quote doesn't really add power to your statement
using slurs and such is HC. sandbox is usually more lenient towards HC. this is why if someone says a slur, they are usually given a chatbox suspension to make them back away for a bit and cool off, like bebop said.
i don't think vios should be given in sandbox unless it's a more extreme circumstance
ofc everything i'm saying depends on the mod, it's hard to generalize, but you can't deny that site mods have other priorities/commitments
it's really not as bad as you're making it sound for most site mods
my above point still stands that lobby mods are more specifically dedicated
i'm just saying that site mods are capable of understanding sandbox
we don't even have a real admin right now and when we do, i don't think they'll have sandbox's interests in mind when determining who and who shouldn't be a mod, where the owner (cub) would/should
if a mod is bad, it's not only sandbox's best interest for them to be demodded, it's in the interest of the whole site. and if the admin isn't working for the best interest of the site, then they clearly aren't a very good admin.
what does a sandbox lobby mod do when handling a report worthy of a violation
site mods should only be brought in for circumstances like that. there can still be offenses that aren't necessarily vio-worthy, that's why ppl have received 3 hour chatbox suspensions and such
you want people to be banned when they haven't even broken any rules? if they have broken rules, they need site mods to give vios, and if they haven't... you want them banned anyway?
i'm saying that sandbox is meant to be more lenient and chatbox bans etc allow people to take a step back when they go too far instead of being given a vio
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depends on the mod
ofc everything i'm saying depends on the mod, it's hard to generalize, but you can't deny that site mods have other priorities/commitments
sandbox mods probably play here more but the rules are for the most part still the same. failing that, there are a few site mods well versed in sandbox.
my above point still stands that lobby mods are more specifically dedicated
that's true. if a site mod isn't working, an admin demods them.
we don't even have a real admin right now and when we do, i don't think they'll have sandbox's interests in mind when determining who and who shouldn't be a mod, where the owner (cub) would/should
what does a sandbox lobby mod do when handling a report worthy of a violation
site mods should only be brought in for circumstances like that. there can still be offenses that aren't necessarily vio-worthy, that's why ppl have received 3 hour chatbox suspensions and such
you want people to be banned when they haven't even broken any rules? if they have broken rules, they need site mods to give vios, and if they haven't... you want them banned anyway?
sandbox lobby mods focus only on sandbox and have more time/can respond quicker
depends on the mod
sandbox lobby mods generally play in sandbox/are active in sandbox more than site mods and have a better idea of what can slide and what can't
sandbox mods probably play here more but the rules are for the most part still the same. failing that, there are a few site mods well versed in sandbox.
if sandbox lobby mods are doing something that isn't working, the sandbox owner can unmod them, whereas the sandbox owner has no say in site mods
that's true. if a site mod isn't working, an admin demods them.
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good thing we have 4 site mods regularly in sandbox then
who are u talking abt besides bebop and merlot
what does a sandbox lobby mod do when handling a report worthy of a violation
site mods should only be brought in for circumstances like that. there can still be offenses that aren't necessarily vio-worthy, that's why ppl have received 3 hour chatbox suspensions and such
i already don't think it's worth the effort but im a tragic hero don't you know that means i'm going to try anyway even though no one will appreciate it