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Today I Learned
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That town of salem doesn't have a vanilla villager role because people find it too boring
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cub says


sl0nderman says




this is how you convince nobody


lol dahliahawthorne is ex-admin vancy
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I think that if EpicMafia had a more complex graphical mode and it was the default rather than text mode, then it would be more appealing to people and pull away from Town of Salem. I don't even mean crazy diversified graphics and animations all over the place like on ToS, but just a few backgrounds to cycle through and sprites to sprinkle throughout, along with a bigger and opaque text box.
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i think theres more atoms in a bowling ball than a golfball but i dont have the numbers so u know, who knows right? darn obvious stuff being countered by irrelevant stats
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Floor says

i don't know the numbers, but i'm going to compare them anyway


smart move floor
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i've played 1 tos game per year and i get lynched day1 every time
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ye, because those statistics are available let alone ever recorded, haha, you got me dude. youre delusional if you think em ever had a half of ToS population active at once, even a quarter might be too much .
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you compare a newer site's popularity to an older site at the same moment in time as if the older site is expected to be in its prime
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w o w !

now show me epicmafia's numbers now, as well as epicmafia's numbers in 2010
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and this is players ONLY through steam, not including those playing through browser or other mediums
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Floor says


Ashe says

These bonobo's should compare site age..


then you'd just come to the fact that ToS is years younger yet far has far out-achieved EM in popularity.


citation needed
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Ashe says

These bonobo's should compare site age..


then you'd just come to the fact that ToS is years younger yet far has far out-achieved EM in popularity.
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they also have a point about mort, in a jan game mort makes jan pointless and consequently makes itself pointless unless there's multiple killers and multiple killers is bad setup design anyway

but mort is basically a game mode role just nobody considers that because game mode roles are a bad idea unless the role influences game mode (like baker)
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sl0nderman says


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1y8cE3ey8gtL7IRYgUK1E705Po_ew1PcSaBvRHuChR1g/edit#gid=0


theyre right about surgeon at least

surgeon shouldnt exist

roles like nurse combine two conflicting roles to create a trade-off, you'd never drunk a pr and you'd always save a pr (again they probably just think it's a combo role and don't realize that)

surgeon though is a terrible role
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sl0nderman says




this is how you convince nobody
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but cub i'm too busy being on my high horse
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you could just explain to them why roles like these are good and probably convince some people interested in the game of mafia to try em


sl0nderman says




you could tell them how voodoo makes town pick their words carefully, which is an important skill in mafia, and also allows mafia some contingency against being revealed by reckless reporting roles


sl0nderman says

Who's being hostile, I'm just being curious.




this is a good example of someone who just has the wrong impression from only playing either nonsense setups with roles like maid or from jumping straight to ridiculously complex setups (like reverse mafia i guess i never played it)

some conversion roles are bad: maid is awful under all circumstances due to being block-proof, zombie is awful under all circumstances due to the shared win condition making not jointing pointless as well as balancing issues, etc.

masons, though, are an excellent conversion role that allows town to sacrifice possible prs in exchange for group clearing as well as risking mismason and recruiting potentially mafia-sided thirds

you know all of this but they probably don't and if they did they might find an appreciation for mafia implementations like em
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sl0nderman says


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1y8cE3ey8gtL7IRYgUK1E705Po_ew1PcSaBvRHuChR1g/edit#gid=0


if youre going to go to all that effort you'd think they'd at least try to be correct
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they dont mean sandbox, sandbox is irrelevant
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This person is among us

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