over 7 years

Who are you UK kids going to vote for?

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Labour
7
Conservatives
5
UKIP
2
Liberal Democrats
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Greens
2
Other
1
Undecided
over 7 years
we can afford the nhs but we cant afford the government's current mishandling of it
over 7 years
i'm fine with that as long as i'm not the one running. i'm just discussing my personal vote choice
over 7 years
https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/publications/deficits-nhs-2016

> funding isnt keeping up w/ the demand for services
over 7 years
That's the kind of virtue signalling that isn't going to win you elections in this social climate, I'm afraid.
over 7 years

Harrold says

I sincerely hope you're not both sat next to each other, screaming at one another saying, HOW COULD HE SAY THAT. HOW IS HE SO MISINFORMED.


trust me, i definitely don't consider myself to be the most informed.

i just don't feel comfortable guaranteeing my own life at the cost of the poor, when i can hope for better
over 7 years

Harrold says


Enamored says


Harrold says


Connor says


Harrold says

I need the NHS just like anyone else, but the fact we even have the NHS at all is a miracle. Just look at America.


i will definitely consider it the worst timeline if i have to start paying health insurance

the NHS has been failing BECAUSE of the underfunding. the funding didnt reduce because of the NHS's failings


Who funds the NHS tho. If the NHS needs to go, maybe you need to look at why, rather than who. I think we're extremely fortunate to have it, but it's insanely expensive.


it! doesnt! need! to! go!


Sources. I beg you.


https://www.facebook.com/NHSRoadshow/videos/208884419619245/

ik this is a video but i'm trying to find other sources
over 7 years
I sincerely hope you're not both sat next to each other, screaming at one another saying, HOW COULD HE SAY THAT. HOW IS HE SO MISINFORMED.
over 7 years
yeah he was pretty low on the pecking order, which is why he was able to succeed
over 7 years

Connor says

i recall reading some stuff that MI5 really dropped the ball on that guy, but i also don't think the £167bn kill switch deterred him much from doing what he did


Well apparently we have thousands of people on record who are being monitored. Him being one of them. These things could potentially be prevented.
over 7 years

Harrold says


Enamored says


Harrold says


Connor says


Harrold says

I need the NHS just like anyone else, but the fact we even have the NHS at all is a miracle. Just look at America.


i will definitely consider it the worst timeline if i have to start paying health insurance

the NHS has been failing BECAUSE of the underfunding. the funding didnt reduce because of the NHS's failings


Who funds the NHS tho. If the NHS needs to go, maybe you need to look at why, rather than who. I think we're extremely fortunate to have it, but it's insanely expensive.


it! doesnt! need! to! go!


Sources. I beg you.


(I don't mean TheGuardian)
over 7 years
i recall reading some stuff that MI5 really dropped the ball on that guy, but i also don't think the £167bn kill switch deterred him much from doing what he did
over 7 years

Enamored says

you realise people were at risk of dying when the nhs cyber attack happened, right?


Sure, but why does that mean we need to dismantle other sources of security in order to fund that?
over 7 years

Enamored says


Harrold says


Connor says


Harrold says

I need the NHS just like anyone else, but the fact we even have the NHS at all is a miracle. Just look at America.


i will definitely consider it the worst timeline if i have to start paying health insurance

the NHS has been failing BECAUSE of the underfunding. the funding didnt reduce because of the NHS's failings


Who funds the NHS tho. If the NHS needs to go, maybe you need to look at why, rather than who. I think we're extremely fortunate to have it, but it's insanely expensive.


it! doesnt! need! to! go!


Sources. I beg you.
over 7 years
you realise people were at risk of dying when the nhs cyber attack happened, right?
over 7 years

Connor says


Harrold says

I need the NHS just like anyone else, but the fact we even have the NHS at all is a miracle. Just look at America.


the "miracle" here is that tories haven't finished dismantling and privatising it yet, let's be clear about that


They privatised the trains. How did that one work out? How much money was lost? How much do train fares cost? This is an indication of how much money these things cost, and this is nowhere near the scale of the NHS.
over 7 years

Harrold says


Enamored says


Harrold says


Connor says


Harrold says

Well the options are between someone who wants to remove funding from British security and basically wants to live in a communist society. The other is an evil bítch.


are you talking about trident? its in his manifesto that he won't do it and i think there are enough blairites to keep him in check if that's your worry.... not that i dont disagree with him personally, which biases my response to your concern

corbyn wants to add 20k officers to the street, after the numbers dropped because of tory cuts, he's investing in cyber security also...

unless you're talking about something else completely


I read the leaked Labour manifesto where he said something about, I think it was, 4.6bn cuts to Trident. Other than that he's been extremely vocal about his stance on the sort, saying that we absolutely need to move away from such things.


do you disagree we need to have more cyber security?


Well, let's look at what happened recently in Manchester, and even before that when there was talk of having our WhatsApp messages monitored because of what happened in London. We already have enough security to understand we have threats even within our own country. The security in itself seems to not have provided much in the way of necessary action to prevent harm from the people who live here, so I don't think it's a case of needing more cyber security, I believe it's a case of needing more professional security.


.......who was warned by their mother & mosque?
over 7 years
it was working remarkably well until it started being underfunded!!!!!!!
over 7 years

Enamored says


Harrold says


Connor says


Harrold says

Well the options are between someone who wants to remove funding from British security and basically wants to live in a communist society. The other is an evil bítch.


are you talking about trident? its in his manifesto that he won't do it and i think there are enough blairites to keep him in check if that's your worry.... not that i dont disagree with him personally, which biases my response to your concern

corbyn wants to add 20k officers to the street, after the numbers dropped because of tory cuts, he's investing in cyber security also...

unless you're talking about something else completely


I read the leaked Labour manifesto where he said something about, I think it was, 4.6bn cuts to Trident. Other than that he's been extremely vocal about his stance on the sort, saying that we absolutely need to move away from such things.


do you disagree we need to have more cyber security?


Well, let's look at what happened recently in Manchester, and even before that when there was talk of having our WhatsApp messages monitored because of what happened in London. We already have enough security to understand we have threats even within our own country. The security in itself seems to not have provided much in the way of necessary action to prevent harm from the people who live here, so I don't think it's a case of needing more cyber security, I believe it's a case of needing more professional security.
over 7 years

Harrold says

I need the NHS just like anyone else, but the fact we even have the NHS at all is a miracle. Just look at America.


the "miracle" here is that tories haven't finished dismantling and privatising it yet, let's be clear about that
over 7 years

Harrold says


Connor says


Harrold says

I need the NHS just like anyone else, but the fact we even have the NHS at all is a miracle. Just look at America.


i will definitely consider it the worst timeline if i have to start paying health insurance

the NHS has been failing BECAUSE of the underfunding. the funding didnt reduce because of the NHS's failings


Who funds the NHS tho. If the NHS needs to go, maybe you need to look at why, rather than who. I think we're extremely fortunate to have it, but it's insanely expensive.


it! doesnt! need! to! go!
over 7 years
side note: i like a lot of your responses and it's just encouraging me to try and find answers i dont know in the future
over 7 years

Connor says


Harrold says

I need the NHS just like anyone else, but the fact we even have the NHS at all is a miracle. Just look at America.


i will definitely consider it the worst timeline if i have to start paying health insurance

the NHS has been failing BECAUSE of the underfunding. the funding didnt reduce because of the NHS's failings


Who funds the NHS tho. If the NHS needs to go, maybe you need to look at why, rather than who. I think we're extremely fortunate to have it, but it's insanely expensive.
over 7 years

Harrold says


Connor says


Harrold says

Well the options are between someone who wants to remove funding from British security and basically wants to live in a communist society. The other is an evil bítch.


are you talking about trident? its in his manifesto that he won't do it and i think there are enough blairites to keep him in check if that's your worry.... not that i dont disagree with him personally, which biases my response to your concern

corbyn wants to add 20k officers to the street, after the numbers dropped because of tory cuts, he's investing in cyber security also...

unless you're talking about something else completely


I read the leaked Labour manifesto where he said something about, I think it was, 4.6bn cuts to Trident. Other than that he's been extremely vocal about his stance on the sort, saying that we absolutely need to move away from such things.


do you disagree we need to have more cyber security?
over 7 years

Connor says


Harrold says

Well the options are between someone who wants to remove funding from British security and basically wants to live in a communist society. The other is an evil bítch.


are you talking about trident? its in his manifesto that he won't do it and i think there are enough blairites to keep him in check if that's your worry.... not that i dont disagree with him personally, which biases my response to your concern

corbyn wants to add 20k officers to the street, after the numbers dropped because of tory cuts, he's investing in cyber security also...

unless you're talking about something else completely


I read the leaked Labour manifesto where he said something about, I think it was, 4.6bn cuts to Trident. Other than that he's been extremely vocal about his stance on the sort, saying that we absolutely need to move away from such things.
over 7 years
privatisation is even happening in scotland, despite the snp government

scary times are upon us