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This post will unban ABC.

deletedabout 8 years

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Edark, Cody, Dahlia decided the below case did not justify an unban.

Arcbell - neutral as always. Offered $50 to james to unban him. Funny, but inherently scummy

Then they added 4 months to abc's ban.

And banned me as well (I actually deserved it tho). Damn I actually put real effort in this and they took a few back and forths to dismiss it. that university i went to was a waste cuz this was the simplest case on the planet


Alright. This is a personal test from me to mods. The only try hard piece of writing you'll ever encounter out of me on this website. Mods. You have simple duties on this party game website. That's to 1- keep it alive, 2- keep users happy, 3- and clean up the forums from terrifying words like mong and incorrect gender pronoun usage

INTRODUCTION
I point out the following reasons why he deserves a release: 1- he is spiteful as a banned user and the community suffers for it, this will be removed obviously, 2- the site gains nothing with his “ban”, 3- his ban doesnt even stop him from being banned in the first place (rofl), 4- philosophically it follows that he would abandon all sense of rules and be a trouble maker while exiled from a society that enforces these rules and in such a case, him breaking rules w/ this status is perfectly f'ucking reasonable. This is not a case that justifies continuing his perpetual ban.

Listen, ABC is only going to continue pestering until you do the right thing and give him his due freedom. It will continue on and on and on. What pros have you uncovered over the past 2 years he's been banned. Have there been cheating and round pausing every round since? Have there been nonstop GT alts showing up? Or trolls in every game destroying competition? Yes, this is an endless problem that is only facilitated by wrongly banning users who then spite this entire community. So, unban this f'ucker.

Also how is the site changed by keeping abc banned. Nothing changes. It's simply funny how no one gets this. All that has happened is you've changed his status to banned user while he bypasses on alts, nonstop. Have we defeated a main villain and all misery ends? Does the site get anything beneficial at all? Does the community get any healthier, cleaner, warmer? Is there some glow of energy filled with epicmafia justice powder sprayed from Rutab's cow utter onto tables as we play? Well he's been on the site his whole ban. He's been on today. You aren't stopping him. Look at the OP in that 'confessions' thread. He's been playing actively this entire time. do the most logical thing and unban

His status as a banned user with no release date acts as a propellant to his bad behavior. Why wouldn't it? He has no reason to expect being released. And I swear, Edark, if you think him doing bad things while being PERPETUALLY banned is a reason to keep him banned, then you are basically dictating. To illustrate, if I personally feel in my mind there is no date for my release from jail, and I'm perpetually stuck with no freedom, then I feel I have nothing to lose by breaking any rules. It's as if there is no more authority or rules. Because being perma stuck in a prison does this to most people. You basically created a situation that allows his no respect for rules attitude. Is there one simple fix to this? Could it be to f’ucking give a man his due f'ucking freedom?

This s'hit is simple philosophy and was explained succinctly by Sirius in the other thread. But you read one snippet from someone else that mentioned in one comment that "he wont ever reform, heerpp" then you hammered a decision based on that saying, “he aint getting unbanned.” Quest then self deletes.

-vovvisarna


TL;DR- Unban Quest. If you don't then I expect a lengthy and thorough argument made against every point in this post BY BOTH ADMINS. I guarantee the arguments made here should convince any unbiased person of logic and reason.

Did you read this entire post? If not don't vote. If yes, then answer: do you agree with my argument?
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I AGREE AND READ 100%
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I DISAGREE AND READ 100%
about 8 years

Retti says

if this were any website besides epicmafia this thread wouldve been locked and a very justified 'no' would be made, but because we're all here for kicks we are here arguing with someone ban evading trying to get unbanned


Dude I said that the first 5 threads where he asked to be unbanned, then some people actually tried to argue that he should be freed. Its quite odd really.
about 8 years
I have no clue who Nathan is. Is Nathan posting in this thread? Can Nathan do a PW reset for me? Thanks.
about 8 years

Math says


JuniorMafia says


Math says

well of course i wasn't going to unban you from main because from what i saw/heard you bypassed while on sanctity and threw games on some other account


where did i throw games on some other account


glitterati: https://epicmafia.com/user/585872#/

you denied it being you but let's be honest with ourselves here what motivation did you have to tell me the truth


https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=&reported=Glitterati

literally 0 violations. get out man you're just trying to become admin again lol
about 8 years

DahliaHawthorne says

3 months isn't long, 1 month is just short.


either way i could be screwed (since i have been before) so it's not worth it fmpov
about 8 years
i'd just leave the site for like 6 months and come back and try your luck again
about 8 years

Edark says


Vovvisarna says

Edark, I'm giving you two scenarios. One scenario is better than the other in terms of quality of games


1. Him banned

2. Him unbanned


I established 1 is worse. If/when he throws while unbanned, so be it. But maybe he doesn't throw? Maybe his unban was so difficult to finally reach he doesnt want to ruin it

So do you want to keep the worse scenario with him banned? Because that defies all logic

I think you're missing a lot of what I'm getting at


Im saying that implying that his behaviour will change when he is unbanned is a baseless assumption that goes against his recent behaviour.


it's not a baseless assumption bc there's precedence of me behaving when im unbanned
deletedabout 8 years
if this were any website besides epicmafia this thread wouldve been locked and a very justified 'no' would be made, but because we're all here for kicks we are here arguing with someone ban evading trying to get unbanned
about 8 years
abc u gotta meet us halfway here
about 8 years

JuniorMafia says


Math says

well of course i wasn't going to unban you from main because from what i saw/heard you bypassed while on sanctity and threw games on some other account


where did i throw games on some other account


glitterati: https://epicmafia.com/user/585872#/

you denied it being you but let's be honest with ourselves here what motivation did you have to tell me the truth
deletedabout 8 years
3 months isn't long, 1 month is just short.
about 8 years
3 months is pretty long too, you don't seem to remember when lucid unbanned me on fanas with a 1 month unban date for main lobby. 3 days prior to nearly finishing that 1 month, he rebans me for something i didn't do. which is why only a leash really works
about 8 years
Edark can you do a PW reset for me?
about 8 years

Vovvisarna says

Edark, I'm giving you two scenarios. One scenario is better than the other in terms of quality of games


1. Him banned

2. Him unbanned


I established 1 is worse. If/when he throws while unbanned, so be it. But maybe he doesn't throw? Maybe his unban was so difficult to finally reach he doesnt want to ruin it

So do you want to keep the worse scenario with him banned? Because that defies all logic

I think you're missing a lot of what I'm getting at


Im saying that implying that his behaviour will change when he is unbanned is a baseless assumption that goes against his recent behaviour. Nothing(other than his word that has proven to be worth jacksh*t) has made me believe that he is reformed and would act like a normal regular user. He got his chance from Cody and he blew it already.
deletedabout 8 years
how about no more violation leashes but that's stupid and creates a standard where people can just complain enough to get unbanned
about 8 years

JuniorMafia says


Arcbell says

abc would you agree to my unban plan of increasing penalties?


i agree to the first deal you made


the one on the table for serious is the one where you pay edark $50, and every time you break your leash it doubles
about 8 years

Math says

well of course i wasn't going to unban you from main because from what i saw/heard you bypassed while on sanctity and threw games on some other account


where did i throw games on some other account
about 8 years
the ban length for which would have been 3 months so i was waiting for that to be up before talking about a leash with you
deletedabout 8 years

Venus says


DahliaHawthorne says


Retti says

the coolest part is when abc pretty much threatens the mods to unban him or else he will cheat and throw like he thinks trophies still matter hahahaha


wow wtf my trophy matters... to me...


very important pixels


there's gotta be like 100 pixels there! trophies are pixels, pixels take up space, space is money, and money is time, and trophies take time, everything comes full circle and trophies matter
about 8 years

Arcbell says

abc would you agree to my unban plan of increasing penalties?


i agree to the first deal you made
about 8 years
well of course i wasn't going to unban you from main because from what i saw/heard you bypassed while on sanctity and threw games on some other account
about 8 years

Retti says

abc why dont you go terrorize the sentient blobs of mafiascum or something


icr who you are, but if you check the mafiascum game i'm in right now you can see that i play properly
deletedabout 8 years

DahliaHawthorne says


Retti says

the coolest part is when abc pretty much threatens the mods to unban him or else he will cheat and throw like he thinks trophies still matter hahahaha


wow wtf my trophy matters... to me...


very important pixels
about 8 years

Math says


JuniorMafia says


Math says


JuniorMafia says

nor did cody unban me as myself, all cody did was allow to me bypass on a random acct and i didn't break any rules on that account


except i did when i unlocked the account for you and unbanned you from every lobby except for main


actually you didn't. you told me to hide as sanctity and that only you/solace knew


i'm talking about unlocking and unbanning quest far after you got rebanned as sanctity


ok but when you unbanned me as quest i was still banned from main lobby. do u get my point?????????
about 8 years
abc would you agree to my unban plan of increasing penalties?
about 8 years

JuniorMafia says


Math says


JuniorMafia says

nor did cody unban me as myself, all cody did was allow to me bypass on a random acct and i didn't break any rules on that account


except i did when i unlocked the account for you and unbanned you from every lobby except for main


actually you didn't. you told me to hide as sanctity and that only you/solace knew


i'm talking about unlocking and unbanning quest far after you got rebanned as sanctity