Edark, Cody, Dahlia decided the below case did not justify an unban.
Arcbell - neutral as always. Offered $50 to james to unban him. Funny, but inherently scummy
Then they added 4 months to abc's ban.
And banned me as well (I actually deserved it tho). Damn I actually put real effort in this and they took a few back and forths to dismiss it. that university i went to was a waste cuz this was the simplest case on the planet
Alright. This is a personal test from me to mods. The only try hard piece of writing you'll ever encounter out of me on this website. Mods. You have simple duties on this party game website. That's to 1- keep it alive, 2- keep users happy, 3- and clean up the forums from terrifying words like mong and incorrect gender pronoun usage
INTRODUCTION
I point out the following reasons why he deserves a release: 1- he is spiteful as a banned user and the community suffers for it, this will be removed obviously, 2- the site gains nothing with his “ban”,
3- his ban doesnt even stop him from being banned in the first place (rofl), 4- philosophically it follows that he would abandon all sense of rules and be a trouble maker while exiled from a society that enforces these rules and in such a case, him breaking rules w/ this status is perfectly f'ucking reasonable. This is not a case that justifies continuing his perpetual ban.
Listen, ABC is only going to continue pestering until you do the right thing and give him his due freedom. It will continue on and on and on. What pros have you uncovered over the past 2 years he's been banned. Have there been cheating and round pausing every round since? Have there been nonstop GT alts showing up? Or trolls in every game destroying competition? Yes, this is an endless problem that is only facilitated by wrongly banning users who then spite this entire community. So, unban this f'ucker.
Also how is the site changed by keeping abc banned. Nothing changes. It's simply funny how no one gets this. All that has happened is you've changed his status to banned user while he bypasses on alts, nonstop. Have we defeated a main villain and all misery ends? Does the site get anything beneficial at all? Does the community get any healthier, cleaner, warmer? Is there some glow of energy filled with epicmafia justice powder sprayed from Rutab's cow utter onto tables as we play? Well he's been on the site his whole ban. He's been on today. You aren't stopping him. Look at the OP in that 'confessions' thread. He's been playing actively this entire time. do the most logical thing and unban
His status as a banned user with no release date acts as a propellant to his bad behavior. Why wouldn't it? He has no reason to expect being released. And I swear, Edark, if you think him doing bad things while being PERPETUALLY banned is a reason to keep him banned, then you are basically dictating. To illustrate, if I personally feel in my mind there is no date for my release from jail, and I'm perpetually stuck with no freedom, then I feel I have nothing to lose by breaking any rules. It's as if there is no more authority or rules. Because being perma stuck in a prison does this to most people. You basically created a situation that allows his no respect for rules attitude. Is there one simple fix to this? Could it be to f’ucking give a man his due f'ucking freedom?
This s'hit is simple philosophy and was explained succinctly by Sirius in the other thread. But you read one snippet from someone else that mentioned in one comment that "he wont ever reform, heerpp" then you hammered a decision based on that saying, “he aint getting unbanned.” Quest then self deletes.
-vovvisarna
TL;DR- Unban Quest. If you don't then I expect a lengthy and thorough argument made against every point in this post BY BOTH ADMINS. I guarantee the arguments made here should convince any unbiased person of logic and reason.
Poll
Did you read this entire post? If not don't vote. If yes, then answer: do you agree with my argument?
Dude I said that the first 5 threads where he asked to be unbanned, then some people actually tried to argue that he should be freed. Its quite odd really.
Edark, I'm giving you two scenarios. One scenario is better than the other in terms of quality of games
1. Him banned
2. Him unbanned
I established 1 is worse. If/when he throws while unbanned, so be it. But maybe he doesn't throw? Maybe his unban was so difficult to finally reach he doesnt want to ruin it
So do you want to keep the worse scenario with him banned? Because that defies all logic
I think you're missing a lot of what I'm getting at
Im saying that implying that his behaviour will change when he is unbanned is a baseless assumption that goes against his recent behaviour.
it's not a baseless assumption bc there's precedence of me behaving when im unbanned
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if this were any website besides epicmafia this thread wouldve been locked and a very justified 'no' would be made, but because we're all here for kicks we are here arguing with someone ban evading trying to get unbanned
well of course i wasn't going to unban you from main because from what i saw/heard you bypassed while on sanctity and threw games on some other account
3 months is pretty long too, you don't seem to remember when lucid unbanned me on fanas with a 1 month unban date for main lobby. 3 days prior to nearly finishing that 1 month, he rebans me for something i didn't do. which is why only a leash really works
Edark, I'm giving you two scenarios. One scenario is better than the other in terms of quality of games
1. Him banned
2. Him unbanned
I established 1 is worse. If/when he throws while unbanned, so be it. But maybe he doesn't throw? Maybe his unban was so difficult to finally reach he doesnt want to ruin it
So do you want to keep the worse scenario with him banned? Because that defies all logic
I think you're missing a lot of what I'm getting at
Im saying that implying that his behaviour will change when he is unbanned is a baseless assumption that goes against his recent behaviour. Nothing(other than his word that has proven to be worth jacksh*t) has made me believe that he is reformed and would act like a normal regular user. He got his chance from Cody and he blew it already.
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how about no more violation leashes but that's stupid and creates a standard where people can just complain enough to get unbanned
well of course i wasn't going to unban you from main because from what i saw/heard you bypassed while on sanctity and threw games on some other account
the ban length for which would have been 3 months so i was waiting for that to be up before talking about a leash with you
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the coolest part is when abc pretty much threatens the mods to unban him or else he will cheat and throw like he thinks trophies still matter hahahaha
wow wtf my trophy matters... to me...
very important pixels
there's gotta be like 100 pixels there! trophies are pixels, pixels take up space, space is money, and money is time, and trophies take time, everything comes full circle and trophies matter
well of course i wasn't going to unban you from main because from what i saw/heard you bypassed while on sanctity and threw games on some other account