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Round 446 cheating/throws.

over 8 years

Hello,

Considering the amount of throw this round has had its quite safe to say that it clearly disrupted plenty of runners. A few directly benefited from it and a few got completely crushed by it. Its very hard to blame a runner for this since the throwers actions has mostly been directly against a select few runners while some lucky and others were collateral damage or coincidentally benefited simply by being opposite alignmen

http://pastebin.com/QpsScKdy

http://pastebin.com/1PtWmuNB

A few pastebins made towards various throwing users.

We will reach a conclusion this cycle, so the round will end one way or another within 15 hours.

What course of action should we take?
40
Reset the round.
38
Let the round end, only ban the GT alts.
6
Other.
4
Suspend elynia and then let the round end.
over 8 years
If all it takes to reset a round is for abc to subtly throw 15 games out of 500, or to throw 5 games against (1) specific runner, then no one would ever win a trophy on Epicmafia.com
deletedover 8 years
Also for everyone so hell-bent on the poll, I am like 99% sure they're not going to do whatever they're going to do solely based on this poll

It's not the deciding factor. It's purpose is to gauge community opinion and stir discussion that can be considered when making the decision

It's not gonna be 30-29-5 and Edark/Nathan be like "OK they voted 1 more vote in favor of reset so here we go!"
deletedover 8 years
The weapon of choice in this war is pastebins
over 8 years
Let me clarify:

There is substantial evidence to reasonably suggest a elyina DQ, but I don't personally wish for her to be DQ'd if it's found that some of those linked games were not actually throws at all.

Since the mods didn't provide explanations how each of those games were thrown, I have no way of agreeing if it was a legitimate throw or not. Many of elyina's comments suggest that the games were not thrown.
deletedover 8 years
Negative. I say you played in 48% of her games, and she won points in 78% of those games.

Thats all I say.
over 8 years

Bigpock says


expose says




And I say you played too many games with ur friend, and that he threw for you/meta abused with you. I say you should be DQ'd because you know that playing A LITTLE LESS THAN 50 PERCENT OF YOUR GAMES with one player is shady.

so.


I believe that you should read my post in the round thread and/or read the games that we played together before bringing my name up when it comes to her run.
over 8 years

expose says

elyina did you even read any of the pastebins? Your comment suggests no. As mist said, I only went through the linked games in each of OP pastebins and picked out which runners were present in those games, and what their win condition was.




If you're basing it 100% off the original pastebin then it's just as flawed as the original. You are putting the evidence in a vacuum that has been made to make me look guilty and saying it means I deserve to be DQ'd, which I already addressed in a counter pastebin that has yet to receive acknowledgement from any moderator or investigator:

http://pastebin.com/AmfmSdSK
over 8 years

xJuicy says


Escurai says

can you suspend someone for being a mug


are you volunteering?


You're picking a fight with the wrong gi- boy
deletedover 8 years
i've tipped the balance to reset the round
over 8 years
elyina did you even read any of the pastebins? Your comment suggests no. As mist said, I only went through the linked games in each of OP pastebins and picked out which runners were present in those games, and what their win condition was.
deletedover 8 years

elyina says

expose if you actually wrote that pastebin yourself your face should be bright red right now. and you should consider stepping down for having the gall to participate in a cheating investigation while running yourself.

keep the pastebins coming guys. I'm actually having more fun humiliating the mod staff in front of the entire community than I did doing the trophy run


ok take a chill pill yo. she went through the original pastebin and wrote down the names of runners who were in each game. that's all she did. she wasn't the one who decided which games were thrown.
over 8 years

Escurai says

can you suspend someone for being a mug


are you volunteering?
over 8 years
can you suspend someone for being a mug
over 8 years
expose if you actually wrote that pastebin yourself your face should be bright red right now. and you should consider stepping down for having the gall to participate in a cheating investigation while running yourself.

keep the pastebins coming guys. I'm actually having more fun humiliating the mod staff in front of the entire community than I did doing the trophy run
over 8 years
I sure hope Roo Boop and Snowie didn't throw against town as mafia too..... That would be tragic.
over 8 years

elyina says



"Boop carries the game despite Homu attempting to throw against elyina's competition by towntelling and not being overly scummy


LOOOOOOL. Player X is mafia and throwing against town because he's trying to win!!! This can't be real.
over 8 years

elyina says

Let that sink in.


deletedover 8 years

expose says




And I say you played too many games with ur friend, and that he threw for you/meta abused with you. I say you should be DQ'd because you know that playing A LITTLE LESS THAN 50 PERCENT OF YOUR GAMES with one player is shady.

so.
over 8 years
"Boop carries the game despite Homu attempting to throw against elyina's competition by towntelling and not being overly scummy."


An epicmafia moderator wrote this sentence. And meant it.

Let that sink in.
deletedover 8 years

elyina says

"Boop carries the game despite Homu attempting to throw against elyina's competition by towntelling and not being overly scummy."

RANDOM PLAYER TRIES TO THROW FOR ELYINA'S COMPETITION BY TRYING TO WIN AS MAFIA, AS BOOP (A PLAYER I COULD NEVER HAVE PASSED ANYWAY) WRITES IN THEIR OWN PASTEBIN ABOUT HOW THEY CARRIED THE GAME AND SHOULD GET THEIR TROPHY


ok yeah this one was p funny
over 8 years
expose is this a joke lmao. that pastebin provides no new evidence, has several games in it that were definitely not thrown, and also shows sheeppotato benefiting generously from aforementioned "gamethrowing".

"Boop carries the game despite Homu attempting to throw against elyina's competition by towntelling and not being overly scummy."

RANDOM PLAYER TRIES TO THROW FOR ELYINA'S COMPETITION BY TRYING TO WIN AS MAFIA, AS BOOP (A PLAYER I COULD NEVER HAVE PASSED ANYWAY) WRITES IN THEIR OWN PASTEBIN ABOUT HOW THEY CARRIED THE GAME AND SHOULD GET THEIR TROPHY


i'm actually laughing hard, honestly you should delete this post before you embarrass yourself further
over 8 years
Picking out the people who played each game in the pastebins provided isn't very hard.
deletedover 8 years
what about muh feelingsssssss....
over 8 years
I don't think you should actually reset the round I just find it amusing which mod has decided to step forward and volunteer to make a huge bin in order to award themselves a trophy.
over 8 years
Reset the round. Why is the mod in Gold trophy position the mod that's making a long paste bin about how the round should end lol