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Round 446 cheating/throws.

over 8 years

Hello,

Considering the amount of throw this round has had its quite safe to say that it clearly disrupted plenty of runners. A few directly benefited from it and a few got completely crushed by it. Its very hard to blame a runner for this since the throwers actions has mostly been directly against a select few runners while some lucky and others were collateral damage or coincidentally benefited simply by being opposite alignmen

http://pastebin.com/QpsScKdy

http://pastebin.com/1PtWmuNB

A few pastebins made towards various throwing users.

We will reach a conclusion this cycle, so the round will end one way or another within 15 hours.

What course of action should we take?
40
Reset the round.
38
Let the round end, only ban the GT alts.
6
Other.
4
Suspend elynia and then let the round end.
over 8 years

krystal says

the votes are split weirdo who's the nobody that doesn't want it recent


>role moderator
>calling someone a nobody
over 8 years
the votes are split weirdo who's the nobody that doesn't want it recent
over 8 years
Also if the round is reset, imagine the frustration of rooo. Who was suspended for no reason 2 rounds ago, was thrown against last round, and now he got 2nd place and you reset the round.

Also, nobody wants to play the same setups again. So if literally no one is happy with a reset, then it is not a good decision.
over 8 years

Vedd says

But you get to fund your own education!


i just wanna learn how to jungle parlays stix thats my biggest aspiration in life
deletedover 8 years
But you get to fund your own education!
over 8 years

Vedd says

How's school


uhhh stressful because its hard to manage school and work :/
deletedover 8 years
How's school
over 8 years
Also resetting the round is absolutely unfair to the other 2 runners.

Tbh, you should just give notes to all the suspected people so that they know you are watching, and others don't do it either. We cant really prove that elyina asked them to throw against others. So we need to let this pass. This has happened every round. But we can stop the soft gts from now on.

You also need to make sure that players are not afraid to lynch runners when they legit fos them.

You will always have to compromise on such things and let a few culprits go in order to keep everything in control. Otherwise you may end up punishing people who have done nothing wrong.
over 8 years
hi veddywap
over 8 years

UniversalStudios says

How is the solution not: refund all applicable games and let the round finish?


It would take time that would stall the round additional days. I think thats very unfair towards player who just wanna run again.
deletedover 8 years
Hi krystal!
over 8 years
thanks parlay 4 enlightening every EM user
over 8 years
Listen very carefully guys. Although the accused party claims that the accusation pastebin is filled with discrepancies and bias( they may be right as people may see things in a different way), the people who did this investigation should not stop doing such detailed investigation. This will be a new revolution and will help the community in a great way. Especially me. Even if this particular incident is not fruitful, it does not mean that the effort and approach was wrong.

Also, it is absolutely great that the mods shared the information with everybody. To all those who are complaining- they are not asking you to help, they are sharing so that people who are willing to help can provide their opinion. They are equipped enough to take care of this.
deletedover 8 years
Resetting is not fair. It's the lazy option for not going through the suspicious games and refunding them. That's what should be done, because then the legit games played and the amount of time the runners have spent playing will not be lost, because the people in the leaderboard obviously care.

To avoid siutations like this one again, do the competition once a month or even once every three months. Red hearts wouldnt be treted like crap and competitions would have much more worth, also, you'd encourage players like Ethereal -who made an amazing job- to look into the round, because how it is right now it's just tiring, having to look at cheaters and throwers back-to-back. I don't think you even need lucid to make this happen, you could pause the round and remove setups until the time for competitive arrives.

I think it'd definitely improve the site. (BTW the competition held every three months is the best option here).
over 8 years
status: "experienced cheater" c;
over 8 years
that pastebin is filled with discrepancies and bias and that would be apparent to anyone that actually reads my responses.

http://pastebin.com/AmfmSdSK
over 8 years
put my response bin in the op please
deletedover 8 years
Its kinda like lucid asking for our opinions then being like jk the poll doesnt matter
over 8 years
How is the solution not: refund all applicable games and let the round finish?
over 8 years

Shivv says

19 friggin moderators and you take 4 days to figure out if someone's cheating and in the end just cough it up to the community through a poll.


Only the role mods + 2 mods handle cheating 100% and compile evidence. This poll is just an easy way to get more opinions, ultimately its the mods call on what to do.
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19 friggin moderators and you take 4 days to figure out if someone's cheating and in the end just cough it up to the community through a poll.
over 8 years
I would like to see this kind of investigation every round.
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Just give everyone on the leaderboard a gold and move on.
over 8 years

Bigpock says



is what this bin is

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