Epicmafia

Round 446 cheating/throws.

over 8 years

Hello,

Considering the amount of throw this round has had its quite safe to say that it clearly disrupted plenty of runners. A few directly benefited from it and a few got completely crushed by it. Its very hard to blame a runner for this since the throwers actions has mostly been directly against a select few runners while some lucky and others were collateral damage or coincidentally benefited simply by being opposite alignmen

http://pastebin.com/QpsScKdy

http://pastebin.com/1PtWmuNB

A few pastebins made towards various throwing users.

We will reach a conclusion this cycle, so the round will end one way or another within 15 hours.

What course of action should we take?

Reset the round.

Let the round end, only ban the GT alts.

Other.

Suspend elynia and then let the round end.

deletedover 8 years

Ripple says

Chilled out all puns are bad you should know this by now friend <3

fixed

deletedover 8 years

delete this comment mist

deletedover 8 years

Chilled out all your puns are bad you should know this by now friend <3

deletedover 8 years

is expose biased in this matter? yes, obviously.

does that mean she shouldnt be allowed to put forward her opinion or make an objective list of tallying who won & lost games in the thrown games the cheating investigation team forward? no, that would be dumb.

deletedover 8 years

I don't think w/l ratio has to do with meta abuse it's just you play so many games with a person it makes it really easy to read them and even the meta itself

The logic you're bringing up cody is like saying if me and Nat played 40 games in comp but the win loss is 50% that couldn't be meta abuse

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Sims says

then we disagree and that's fine. jesus christ.

its Jason Bourne

Cody

over 8 years

i just don't want people to use statistics poorly ;c

JeffreyAaron

over 8 years

My statement stands.

Sims

over 8 years

then we disagree and that's fine. jesus christ.

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JeffreyAaron says

ChilledOut has joined the club of people who prefer to call people by their old usernames because they think it makes them look cool and knowledgable to others. lmfao. Like very obviously Lana doesn't use lolwot anymore so maybe call her by the account she uses now...?

same

Sims says

all i said was that she shouldn't have made a pastebin and it shouldn't be taken seriously

all i'm saying is that's dumb.

deletedover 8 years

JeffreyAaron says

ChilledOut has joined the club of people who prefer to call people by their old usernames because they think it makes them look cool and knowledgable to others. lmfao. Like very obviously Lana doesn't use lolwot anymore so maybe call her by the account she uses now...?

I was making a pun dude

edit: a bad pun

Sims

over 8 years

all i said was that she shouldn't have made a pastebin and it shouldn't be taken seriously

JeffreyAaron

over 8 years

ChilledOut has joined the club of people who prefer to call people by their old usernames because they think it makes them look cool and knowledgable to others. lmfao. Like very obviously Lana doesn't use lolwot anymore so maybe call her by the account she uses now...?

Edark

over 8 years

ChilledOut says

Also, Sims, I don't know if it means anything to you, but there is a whole investigation team composed of some role mods and a couple site mods, which means expose was most likely not on the team that made all of the "official" pastebins. You can probably look at her contribution as coming from a runner than coming from a (more influential) mod

she was not

yoyo200900

over 8 years

yeah no way should expose be on this case that's not clever

deletedover 8 years

i'm really having trouble figuring out what part of this you take issue with shacky.

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Sims says

the problem is when you're both a runner and a mod. there are 15 other mods than can look into it aside from you :|||||||||||

and they are. and expose's opinion isn't being weighed as a mod's opinion. not that i think a mod's opinion is necessarily worth more than anyone else's, honestly, it's just we happen to be the ones making the final decision.

deletedover 8 years

Also, Sims, I don't know if it means anything to you, but there is a whole investigation team composed of some role mods and a couple site mods, which means expose was most likely not on the team that made all of the "official" pastebins. You can probably look at her contribution as coming from a runner than coming from a (more influential) mod

Edark

over 8 years

never lucky rubberducky

Sims

over 8 years

the problem is when you're both a runner and a mod. there are 15 other mods than can look into it aside from you :|||||||||||

Cody

over 8 years

Bigpock says

Negative. I say you played in 48% of her games, and she won points in 78% of those games.

Thats all I say.

Let's take a look at the numbers.

In 41 completed games, I was part of 19. The percentage there is ~46%, but I won't nitpick you for stating 48%.

In the 19 games that I was in, her record was 15-4. This is a 79% win-rate, so you're also right.

In the 22 games that I wasn't part of, her record was 18-4. This is an 82% win-rate.

In her entire 41 games, her record was 33-8. This is 80.5% win-rate. The win rate that she had with me was actually slightly lower than the win rate that she had without me, and in line with her overall win rate for the round.

I don't think I have to get into hypothesis testing and p-value analysis to show you that the likelihood, just based on the numbers, of foul play between us is the same as the likelihood of foul play between her and anyone else that she played with.

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Sims says

if she thought something fishy was going on she should have let the other mods look into it. i feel like if you're in the top 3 as a mod you have a moral obligation to not interfere with the round even if you think you're doing the right thing because you aren't coming into it from a third party perspective, but everything is different now

runners have a right to put forward their opinion just like everyone else, dude.

Sims

over 8 years

i don't think it matters if she's above elyina or not

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Sims says

if she thought something fishy was going on she should have let the other mods look into it. i feel like if you're in the top 3 as a mod you have a moral obligation to not interfere with the round even if you think you're doing the right thing because you aren't coming into it from a third party perspective, but everything is different now

Remember when mods couldn't run. They would have to step down for the round at the very least.

Sims

over 8 years

if she thought something fishy was going on she should have let the other mods look into it. i feel like if you're in the top 3 as a mod you have a moral obligation to not interfere with the round even if you think you're doing the right thing because you aren't coming into it from a third party perspective, but everything is different now