Epicmafia

Round 446 cheating/throws.

over 8 years

Hello,

Considering the amount of throw this round has had its quite safe to say that it clearly disrupted plenty of runners. A few directly benefited from it and a few got completely crushed by it. Its very hard to blame a runner for this since the throwers actions has mostly been directly against a select few runners while some lucky and others were collateral damage or coincidentally benefited simply by being opposite alignmen

http://pastebin.com/QpsScKdy

http://pastebin.com/1PtWmuNB

A few pastebins made towards various throwing users.

We will reach a conclusion this cycle, so the round will end one way or another within 15 hours.

What course of action should we take?

Reset the round.

Let the round end, only ban the GT alts.

Other.

Suspend elynia and then let the round end.

Rooo

over 8 years

Dont reset bro, what about my feelings bro my feelings bro my feelings bro my feelings bro my feelings bro my feelings bro my feelings bro my feelings bro my feelings bro my feelings bro my feelings bro my feelings bro my feelings bro my feelings bro my feelings bro my feelings bro my feelings bro

Nathan

over 8 years

Edark says

I seriously regret not being able to mute people ITT

please mute yourself

JeffreyAaron

over 8 years

jack says

JeffreyAaron says

ChilledOut says

This is the last time I will respond to you (hopefully ever) because all you ever do is bring trouble with you wherever you go

I didn't make it because it was a fat joke, I made it because it sounded pathetic

You're already causing fights with like 2 or 3 people in this thread and you just got here lol

I am not fighting anyone LOL. You made a jab at me when I wasn't talking to you and I am continuing a lil chat with Jack from 2 nights ago. You have this huge blown up idea in your head of me but literally no one in this thread is fighting bud LOL.

well therein lies the problem because i was not continuing that chat here

ok jack.

Edark

over 8 years

I seriously regret not being able to mute people ITT

denial

over 8 years

oh i thought people that were talking about resetting the round were trolling

dont reset the round (hc word here)

Harrold

over 8 years

I think we should reset the round.

jack

over 8 years

JeffreyAaron says

ChilledOut says

This is the last time I will respond to you (hopefully ever) because all you ever do is bring trouble with you wherever you go

I didn't make it because it was a fat joke, I made it because it sounded pathetic

You're already causing fights with like 2 or 3 people in this thread and you just got here lol

I am not fighting anyone LOL. You made a jab at me when I wasn't talking to you and I am continuing a lil chat with Jack from 2 nights ago. You have this huge blown up idea in your head of me but literally no one in this thread is fighting bud LOL.

well therein lies the problem because i was not continuing that chat here

JeffreyAaron

over 8 years

stayaway says

mist says

JeffreyAaron says

jack says

JeffreyAaron says

jack says

JeffreyAaron says

I know when I check someone's trophies and I see one on Jan 2.0 I think to myself "Okay, so they don't actually have a trophy. They won a crapshoot. Cool."

jesus christ

Do you think a Jan 2.0 trophy is even close to being a legitimate trophy indicating that said person who won it is a superior player on Epicmafia.com?

why the heck wouldn't it be, if you trophy legitimately you trophy legitimately regardless of setup. and there's nothing wrong with jan 2 as a comp setup

i don't get why there needs to be elitism within trophy winners, like having a trophy isn't good enough if you didn't do it on a certain setup? that's moronic

There doesn't have to be elitism within trophy winners, but it is widely known that Jan 2.0 is a toss up set up that is hard to have a good run on because in the end it comes down to things out of your control as a runner. This argument I made was given because it plays into the whole investigation right now. The investigation is that there are so many fishy things happening across so many runners and alts that we are stuck with this pause. This is because the round is Jan 2.0.

i actually disagree with this. jan 2.0 is way more skillbased than, say A&V.

It goes both ways.. yes it is skillbased, its difficult to trophy on and things like that, but it depends a hell lot on the orc, and if that person is a new player who could be influenced easily.. well rip

I agree. I think the reason it's difficult to trophy on comes from it being such a toss up based off PRs, hence why I think we shouldn't confuse hard to trophy on because it's a tough set up that takes massive amounts of skill with tough to trophy on because it's a huge tossup that you can quickly lose control of no matter how good of a player you are.

Escurai

over 8 years

Let's just ban all setups that use powerroles

deletedover 8 years

mist says

JeffreyAaron says

jack says

JeffreyAaron says

jack says

JeffreyAaron says

I know when I check someone's trophies and I see one on Jan 2.0 I think to myself "Okay, so they don't actually have a trophy. They won a crapshoot. Cool."

jesus christ

Do you think a Jan 2.0 trophy is even close to being a legitimate trophy indicating that said person who won it is a superior player on Epicmafia.com?

why the heck wouldn't it be, if you trophy legitimately you trophy legitimately regardless of setup. and there's nothing wrong with jan 2 as a comp setup

i don't get why there needs to be elitism within trophy winners, like having a trophy isn't good enough if you didn't do it on a certain setup? that's moronic

There doesn't have to be elitism within trophy winners, but it is widely known that Jan 2.0 is a toss up set up that is hard to have a good run on because in the end it comes down to things out of your control as a runner. This argument I made was given because it plays into the whole investigation right now. The investigation is that there are so many fishy things happening across so many runners and alts that we are stuck with this pause. This is because the round is Jan 2.0.

i actually disagree with this. jan 2.0 is way more skillbased than, say A&V.

It goes both ways.. yes it is skillbased, its difficult to trophy on and things like that, but it depends a hell lot on the orc, and if that person is a new player who could be influenced easily.. well rip

deletedover 8 years

mist says

Nathan says

mist says

really though, it's time guys. time to revolutionize comp.

1) make all setups dawn/daystart
2) make all comps be anon deck
3) actually forget 1, only play STBS

Ideas like this are why you are a mere forum mod.

NATALIE IS SORRY FOR SPEAKING OUT OF TURN, MASTER. NATALIE WILL GO BACK TO THE HOLE NOW, MASTER.

hawt.

expose

over 8 years

denial says

does anyone actually think elyina deserves to be suspended

I don't think anyone is considering DQ'ing elyina at this point.

They want to reset the round completely because 30 games were subtly thrown (subjective, it's possible many of these games weren't thrown at all IDK I didn't review them)

This means that if abc throws 30 games next round and makes a pastebin, they're obligated to reset the following round based on this round's precedent.

Which IMO is not the correct thing to do.

deletedover 8 years

Nathan says

mist says

really though, it's time guys. time to revolutionize comp.

1) make all setups dawn/daystart
2) make all comps be anon deck
3) actually forget 1, only play STBS

Ideas like this are why you are a mere forum mod.

NATALIE IS SORRY FOR SPEAKING OUT OF TURN, MASTER. NATALIE WILL GO BACK TO THE HOLE NOW, MASTER.

deletedover 8 years

denial says

develop a queue system for competitive mafia. you don't even get to pick your setup, you just get to choose 2 setups to ban

ha ha

THIS

Nathan

over 8 years

mist says

really though, it's time guys. time to revolutionize comp.

1) make all setups dawn/daystart
2) make all comps be anon deck
3) actually forget 1, only play STBS

Ideas like this are why you are a mere forum mod.

deletedover 8 years

JeffreyAaron says

Now that's how you go about disagreeing with someone, Nat. This is why you're hot.

Back off my gf???

deletedover 8 years

really though, it's time guys. time to revolutionize comp.

1) make all setups dawn/daystart
2) make all comps be anon deck
3) actually forget 1, only play STBS

JeffreyAaron

over 8 years

Now that's how you go about disagreeing with someone, Nat. This is why you're hot.

JeffreyAaron

over 8 years

ChilledOut says

This is the last time I will respond to you (hopefully ever) because all you ever do is bring trouble with you wherever you go

I didn't make it because it was a fat joke, I made it because it sounded pathetic

You're already causing fights with like 2 or 3 people in this thread and you just got here lol

I am not fighting anyone LOL. You made a jab at me when I wasn't talking to you and I am continuing a lil chat with Jack from 2 nights ago. You have this huge blown up idea in your head of me but literally no one in this thread is fighting bud LOL.

denial

over 8 years

develop a queue system for competitive mafia. you don't even get to pick your setup, you just get to choose 2 setups to ban

ha ha

deletedover 8 years

JeffreyAaron says

jack says

JeffreyAaron says

jack says

JeffreyAaron says

I know when I check someone's trophies and I see one on Jan 2.0 I think to myself "Okay, so they don't actually have a trophy. They won a crapshoot. Cool."

jesus christ

Do you think a Jan 2.0 trophy is even close to being a legitimate trophy indicating that said person who won it is a superior player on Epicmafia.com?

why the heck wouldn't it be, if you trophy legitimately you trophy legitimately regardless of setup. and there's nothing wrong with jan 2 as a comp setup

i don't get why there needs to be elitism within trophy winners, like having a trophy isn't good enough if you didn't do it on a certain setup? that's moronic

There doesn't have to be elitism within trophy winners, but it is widely known that Jan 2.0 is a toss up set up that is hard to have a good run on because in the end it comes down to things out of your control as a runner. This argument I made was given because it plays into the whole investigation right now. The investigation is that there are so many fishy things happening across so many runners and alts that we are stuck with this pause. This is because the round is Jan 2.0.

i actually disagree with this. jan 2.0 is way more skillbased than, say A&V.

Escurai

over 8 years

Bigpock says

Escurai says

Bigpock says

I think all gold heart games should have anonymouse deck

You should be more subtle about trying to destroy epicmafia and just ddos the site it's much easier

less people would play because less people would cheat =3

If only the cheaters had some outside method of communicating with eachother to determine who was who!!!!!! Gottemmmmmmm

deletedover 8 years

Escurai says

Bigpock says

I think all gold heart games should have anonymouse deck

You should be more subtle about trying to destroy epicmafia and just ddos the site it's much easier

less people would play because less people would cheat =3

deletedover 8 years

This is the last time I will respond to you (hopefully ever) because all you ever do is bring trouble with you wherever you go

I didn't make it because it was a fat joke, I made it because it sounded pathetic

You're already causing fights with like 2 or 3 people in this thread and you just got here lol

denial

over 8 years

does anyone actually think elyina deserves to be suspended