over 8 years

I do not know whether a thread like this already existed in case sorry for making one (but not really).

I am really interested in hearing people's thoughts on suicide. Some may even find it startling that I created a thread as they believe there is nothing to discuss but I think there is. Anyway, my only question to you all is whether you think it is moral to commit suicide and does every person have the right to do so?

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If you state your suicidal in Florida you can be immediately hospitalized and lose ur rights for up to 72 hours. Idk what its like in other states

If ur suicidal talk to someone you love or that loves you. Other than that, stop being a wimp and do better with ur life. God put you here for a reason
over 8 years

Ashe says


error says

hey we're keeping an eye on what's being posted here. please be respectful to others and keep an open mind because this is a sensitive topic for many users. thank you.


They shouldn't open this thread then if it Triggers more than MeetTerry's league K/D/A


k/d/a????
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everyone's a critic
over 8 years

error says

hey we're keeping an eye on what's being posted here. please be respectful to others and keep an open mind because this is a sensitive topic for many users. thank you.


They shouldn't open this thread then if it Triggers more than MeetTerry's league K/D/A
over 8 years
error spelled backwards is rorre.

rorre kind of sounds like roar.

roar is the sound a lion makes.

hood is a lion.

error is hood.

Rorre.
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hey we're keeping an eye on what's being posted here. please be respectful to others and keep an open mind because this is a sensitive topic for many users. thank you.
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Aww, Izzy, don't give up. We believe in you!
over 8 years

izzy says

honestly one of the only things keeping me alive right now is that i don't want to hurt the people around me.


Cling on it.
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honestly one of the only things keeping me alive right now is that i don't want to hurt the people around me.
over 8 years
camus was just a crusty old 2 deep 4 u coffee shop philosopher

and like all old philosophers who never really said anything meaningful, he contradicts himself. it isnt perhaps paradoxical, it just is

trying to decide whether suicide is right or wrong is stupid, it's up to the individual. you don't know how badly someone is suffering when they choose to take their own life so you can't decide for them whether it's justified and there is no black and white "it's either always or never the right decision"

i hate pop philosophers and their contradictory black and white worldview crossed with ungodly ambiguity and indecision
over 8 years

bdog1321 says


cub says


bdog1321 says

Oh yeah this is a great place for this discussion, where 3/4 of users are massively depressed and the other 1/4 are dia alts


as someone who's on 2 medications for depression and 2 other medications for social anxiety i think im more qualified than you to say being shielded from reality doesn't help the problem, it amplifies it

i can also tell you something that less direct people with depression would agree with which is f**k you for calling us all weak, how does that help in any f**king way

you're causing more problems than this thread is


Will you ever get over your hate boner


you start shlt with me in every thread i post in so f*ck off hypocrite
over 8 years
No one has dwelled into the issue of suicide more deeply that Albert Camus. Albert Camus believed that the fundamental question was, "Is there any reason not to commit suicide?" Here are some quotes about Camus that would come to some use.

"There is but one truly serious philosophical problem, and that is suicide. Judging whether life is or is not worth living amounts to answering the fundamental question of philosophy. All the rest -- whether or not the world has three dimensions, whether the mind has nine or twelve categories -- comes afterward. These are games; one must first answer."

-- Albert Camus from An Absurd Reasoning

Albert Camus once said, "The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion."

To quote Brooke Noel Moore and Kenneth Bruder:

"Camus regarded suicide as unacceptable. Suicide, he thought, is a kind of weakminded acquiescence to an unjust destiny. Camus believed, perhaps paradoxically, that by struggling against the Sisyphean fate to the end, by rebelling against the absurdity and tragedy of life, it is possible to give life meaning and value. His position indeed is that only through this struggle with an absurd world can the individual achieve fulfillment, solidarity with others, and 'a brief love of this earth.'"

over 8 years

cub says

after the age of 30 when people stop being suicidal over highschool romances and the realization that there's no dream job and life sucks if you're still suicidal then assisted suicide should be an option and if you think otherwise tell me why you think you should decide what a full grown adult does with their life and why you think they should go on suffering because you don't personally agree with suicide


If this was directed at me then know that I agree with everything written in that paragraph

but in your opinion is it that easy to draw a line between a suicide that's worth committing and one that isn't? For example, a 40 year old person may want to commit suicide because s/he doesn't think they make an impact for society but they could yet they don't realize it? Or a person that does in fact make a positive impact on his/her surroundings but feels like s/he doesn't no matter what others say because of this person's high standards for him-/herself? Do you think suicide can be classified into selfish suicide and selfless suicide where only the selfless suicide is to be accepted?
over 8 years
Is it moral? It takes a breaking point to consider to do so or even attempt it. Morality is grey in this. Religious beliefs come into play as well as spiritual beliefs.

Does everyone have the right? It doesn't matter, if someone wants to truly die, they'll find a way to attempt. Whether they die or not is circumstantial... even luck...
over 8 years
Three hour suicide
...To get me out of here
In three years, 'Deicide' is all I'll ever hear.
Death of God
...Death of feeling anything at all
All my life this is understood
Wasting my time like you knew that I would...knew that I would
So I hide my internal suicide
All my pride just to keep it inside...
KEEP IT INSIDE BOY!!!
suffer...
All my life this is understood
Wasting my time like you knew that I would
...Knew that I would
So I hide my internal suicide
All my pride just to keep it inside...keep it INSIDE
Ten thousand lies...
TEN THOUSAND LIES!!!
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i didnt read the ops post or the thread. my bad
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i think its bad because it borks games, no one can vote and the game is ruined
over 8 years
Since it would censor it and delete the word.
over 8 years

iDubbbz says

One word.

Bull sh*t

Get help instead of making the people around you also suicidal by suiciding.


why did you separate it into two words????????????
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Ashe says


Kaworu says


Ashe says




i don't know. i would've succeeded in killing myself by now if i knew my mom wouldn't be sad, and i know people who are living just because they have a pet to take care of. i guess i'm just projecting, because i really can't find another situation where i can say its morally wrong. it really is neither right nor wrong, because it is ultimately your decision. i just want to say that if you really think suicide is your destiny, then that's really sad; i want people to keep hoping that things will change. i don't want to have a nihilistic attitude and tell people "suicide is okay if you decide to do it" because people who already have suicidal thoughts will read that and take action. and that incurable disease scenario is so specific-- we're really not talking about that, are we?


I mean saying that as a example for a more reasonable approach to accept their terms and conditions.


i wouldn't blame them for it. i don't think anyone would, if we're talking about a life where there's absolutely no hope for any kind of fulfillment. but its a extreme example. usually theres a chance to still make life worthwhile.
over 8 years

Kaworu says


Ashe says




i don't know. i would've succeeded in killing myself by now if i knew my mom wouldn't be sad, and i know people who are living just because they have a pet to take care of. i guess i'm just projecting, because i really can't find another situation where i can say its morally wrong. it really is neither right nor wrong, because it is ultimately your decision. i just want to say that if you really think suicide is your destiny, then that's really sad; i want people to keep hoping that things will change. i don't want to have a nihilistic attitude and tell people "suicide is okay if you decide to do it" because people who already have suicidal thoughts will read that and take action. and that incurable disease scenario is so specific-- we're really not talking about that, are we?


I mean saying that as a example for a more reasonable approach to accept their terms and conditions.
over 8 years
One word.

Bull sh*t

Get help instead of making the people around you also suicidal by suiciding.
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Ashe says




i don't know. i would've succeeded in killing myself by now if i knew my mom wouldn't be sad, and i know people who are living just because they have a pet to take care of. i guess i'm just projecting, because i really can't find another situation where i can say its morally wrong. it really is neither right nor wrong, because it is ultimately your decision. i just want to say that if you really think suicide is your destiny, then that's really sad; i want people to keep hoping that things will change. i don't want to have a nihilistic attitude and tell people "suicide is okay if you decide to do it" because people who already have suicidal thoughts will read that and take action. and that incurable disease scenario is so specific-- we're really not talking about that, are we?
over 8 years

ballsy says


Kaworu says


ballsy says

Too many EM players say they want to kill themselves.


what is the point of saying this


was gonna add more but got lazy


If you heard about my family and SHInT that's happening of course you'd want to leave them or kill yourself; not every person needs to elaborate their hella long life story..
over 8 years

Kaworu says

please dont attack me for this,, i dont think its morally right to commit suicide (your death can traumatize the people you were close with) and of course there should be efforts to prevent suicide. but people just feel that their life is miserable and that there's no other way out. and trying to get help may not work. so i don't blame them. i just wish that it was less stigmatized and people talked about it more so that we don't feel like we're alone with suicidal thoughts. or if it was more widely discussed, depression could be caught early and there would be a higher chance of recovering. i dont know.


What if they have no one to lean towards?
Then are you saying it's morally right then?
Either way, it's their choice-- just like when kids with incurable diseases or cancer, they have to choose whether to face the facts that they'll live in pain or die in comfort and resolution that they couldn't do either pick..

I don't want to trigger anti-suicidists by saying this..but suicide is like marriage, some think through it all the way and conclude that it's their path, while others just instantaneously think that it is the resolution and conclude to that, in the end there is no "divorce" or second chance.
[Even I've noticed that]