I do not know whether a thread like this already existed in case sorry for making one (but not really).
I am really interested in hearing people's thoughts on suicide. Some may even find it startling that I created a thread as they believe there is nothing to discuss but I think there is. Anyway, my only question to you all is whether you think it is moral to commit suicide and does every person have the right to do so?
Also Cub, I think it's because some people's depression may be alleviated after that particular age, idk about all. It's kind of like a hope thing that things will get better, idk, but yeah, I agree that people dictate their own lives and do what they deem is fit even though it's really sad.
I also agree with you as well Kaworu, personally for me, if it ever came down to me committing suicide I wouldn't because , like you said, i'd personally not want to put my loved ones through that. It could cause a domino effect and make others around me depressed and I wouldn't want that at all.
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hmm... i didn't mean that the people who are close to you act like victims and blame the person committing suicide, though that does happen. i'd actually care less about their feelings if i knew they would behave that way towards my suicide. but if you're making someone go through the process of coping with your death, its pretty cruel to do that. which is why i said its immoral. my personal morality would dictate that if my death were to hurt someone deeply, then its wrong. it might not be the same for you. but i agree on not blaming people for going through with it.
but i really don't agree with assisted suicide being okay (in most cases)
self determination is a human right, and that includes determining whether to end one's life
it is in no way immoral to commit suicide, it's immoral to pretend like other people are the victims because someone else is dead. people blame the person who commits suicide as a faulty coping mechanism because they feel guilty for not doing more to prevent it
after the age of 30 when people stop being suicidal over highschool romances and the realization that there's no dream job and life sucks if you're still suicidal then assisted suicide should be an option and if you think otherwise tell me why you think you should decide what a full grown adult does with their life and why you think they should go on suffering because you don't personally agree with suicide
as someone who's on 2 medications for depression and 2 other medications for social anxiety i think im more qualified than you to say being shielded from reality doesn't help the problem, it amplifies it
i can also tell you something that less direct people with depression would agree with which is f**k you for calling us all weak, how does that help in any f**king way
you're causing more problems than this thread is
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That's a thought provoking question grandma and I think there are.
Like, I think this might be a case? They put her in life in prison instead though when she wanted to suicide instead and didn't mind undergoing the death penalty...but the pain in her eyes is unexplainable in words. The whole situation is sad tbh....Like, in most cases I'd say to get clinical help, but in this particular case, if I was her, I wouldn't want to live anymore at that point.
Isn't dia the most depressed of them all? Either way I believe a person's opinion does not necessarily reflect on how they would act in a specific situation, say a person may be 'down with suicide' but would not undergo it itself.
Personally I think that people should all be offered help (especially the ones with mental illnesses). What I'm wondering though, are there any situations where suicide can be excused, where it was the only option and everyone is ok with what the person did to himself?
Oh yeah this is a great place for this discussion, where 3/4 of users are massively depressed and the other 1/4 are dia alts
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I agree with Kaworu here, sorry grandma.
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hmm. by talking about it, i dont mean romanticizing it. i mean talking it out and getting to the core of why someone is feeling this way, and working to fix it. if you leave someone alone with their suicidal thoughts, theres a higher chance that they'll actually commit suicide.
but isn't talking about suicide going to cause more suicides? You know, kind of similar to copycat suicide?
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was gonna add more but got lazy
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what is the point of saying this
deletedover 8 years
Too many EM players say they want to kill themselves.
deletedover 8 years
please dont attack me for this,, i dont think its morally right to commit suicide (your death can traumatize the people you were close with) and of course there should be efforts to prevent suicide. but people just feel that their life is miserable and that there's no other way out. and trying to get help may not work. so i don't blame them. i just wish that it was less stigmatized and people talked about it more so that we don't feel like we're alone with suicidal thoughts. or if it was more widely discussed, depression could be caught early and there would be a higher chance of recovering. i dont know.
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I don't think people who commit suicide are weak, it's just very unfortunate. I think people have the right to dictate their lives though. Depression strips people of things they used to enjoy and partake in, makes them view life in a negative manner due to chemical inbalances in the brain. My advice would be for those seeking to commit suicide to go to a doctor and get clinical help because this is a clinical issue. Just remember that you have so much to live for and just way too much to offer the world!
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