So, is the main opinion that female to male is fine to participate against biological males, but male to female participating in sports against biological females is more controversial?
If I recall correctly, the Olympic Committee currently accepts female to male transgender athletes to play in woman's sports, whereas it requires male to female athletes to undergo hormone therapy first.
welp, since you guys decided to not entertain me while i now wait for my ride, i'll link you some of the hilariously bigoted comments on the first link of the OP that I'm just coming across now
unless there was very strong evidence that disproved all possible advantages of being a transgender female then it's probably most fair to treat the issue based on biological sex, if not just to err on the side of caution as far as competitive fairness goes. i don't know what it's like to be a transgender athlete but is it cruel to be told to compete based on your biological sex rather than your gender?
my point is a male body builder will be consistently lifting more than a female just based off biology and what not, so if they have been training as a male to be a track star for the past 10 years they will have a significant advantage over the female runners (on avaerage) so allowing this would be insane.
and making sporting events co-op would be anti productive because women would lose more often than not to the male counterparts and they would not get as much recognition anymore
unless you're serena williams for example she could prob kick any mans a$$ at tennis
Yeah but she didn't even win, so it's like Dash in the Incredibles when he uses his super speed for like .01 seconds and doesn't win the race but still comes in 2nd
this is a really complicated issue bc im sure it depends how long you've been taking hormones, but how do you make rules about that? "If you've been taking hormones for x amount of time you can compete with the women." but how do you prove that you've been taking them consistently that long? it seems weird to have to police that but i don't know how else you would regulate it to make sure no one had an unfair advantage.
idk it really just comes down to the question of how much does HRT really do
well i mean im sure the girls are training too. i think the point they're making is that with HRT you gain/lose muscle mass due to changes in testosterone levels.
even if that is the case, she would have been training as a male prior to the change.
now i ain't no scientist but i'm sure that if you train your body for x amount of years, and your body grows. simply changing your gender will not have a sudden drastic affect, and a lot of the work she did as a male will still, regardless of her testosterone levels now give her a great advantage
"Wangyot, who move from Thailand to Haines in 2014, told the Chilkat Valley News that she doesn’t have a competitive advantage over other girls because she takes female hormones and other drugs to suppress her body’s testosterone"
if this science is definitely true and real science then there's really no contest
don't bother, i didn't read the article lol i did watch the video in the op though these guys tend to present news unbiasedly before entering their biased opinions on the matter, usually i agree with them but in this case i think the trans person should not be allowed to race with women based off the obvious advantage they have, regardless of the "testosterone removal therapy bs that was presented"
op updated with links for more in dept information on the situation,
this is actually a lot more debatable than the washroom thing so it's weird u guys got trolled by that sh*tty topic and can't have actual logical discussions about this one.
maybe your tumblr views have just been bs all along lol
i like that the article just focuses on a d-bag who whines about being called a bigot. though i'm also on the fence because i mean perhaps gender shouldn't trump biological sex on every issue, and the whole thing is regarding biological advantages of sex so.
well my browser won't let me go to the website. that's hilarious.
maybe she should be allowed to race with women because imagine forcing her to race with men, ew. Kinda depends on a lot of specific variables I don't know or care to look up right now.
Also this thread isn't dramatic and why does it matter if a transgender woman is playing sports Devante u suck
i didn't read the article yet but as devante pointed out already, the whole reason for the division between sexes in sports is a biological difference that has nothing to do with whether they're born thinking they're the opposite sex. It has to do with testosterone, doesn't it? If she went through a sex change then idk if it'd be ok because idk what it encompasses but there's certainly an argument for not letting her compete in women's races
on second thought let me just read the article and make my low-quality shitposts afterwards
Also this thread isn't dramatic and why does it matter if a transgender woman is playing sports Devante u suck
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