Epicmafia

Question RE: Ethereal

over 8 years

The question posed in this thread is not necessarily one of the moderation team, the site owner lucidrains/Phillip Wang, or other moderators/admins on the moderation team of this website.

People are calling for Ethereal's head because they were recently promoted from role moderator to moderator. The people calling for Ethereal to be demodded are generally viewing and accusing Ethereal as a predator.

My question is, if you guys care so much about Ethereal being a potential predator, should you not be arguing that Ethereal should be site banned? (Personally, I don't think Ethereal should be site banned. She has done her time for being banned and is currently a very big help for the moderators and cheating investigation team, in my opinion.) Your argument seems to not want to rid the website of possible predators, but to just make sure they don't become moderators. It doesn't really make much sense to me.

And even if Ethereal is demodded, guess what? She's still going to help with Cheating cases and finding banned users... nothing is going to change (except that she won't be able to do reports). Is that really going to be a sigh of relief for all of you?

So if Ethereal is demodded, what difference is it to you people if she's still allowed to be on the website...?

EDIT:

I am in favour of demodding Ethereal to please the community fwiw (I was before I even made this thread), but if we do that I don't really get why they are even allowed to be on the site anyways. I'm seeing these arguments I just don't agree with them; potential is potential at the end of the day, and I believe Ethereal should be allowed to stay on the site

IAmNotABC

over 8 years

VeryBest says

what's going on? can someone make a TL DR?

i heard something about a mod being a pedophile irl

TLDR: Cody is useless admin.

The

over 8 years

Tsugumi says

I wonder if he's referring to his script that just takes a user password, adds 1337 to the beginning and end, does a basic hash, and then adds a null character to the start+end, and stores it. That would be great.

That's what some of the mods use, so I'm sure you've just done them a pleasure.

Keep it up and you might one day live up to the reputation of your "evil hacker" Arcbell.

Matt12

over 8 years

IAmNotABC says

Matt12 says

Who is Cody btw

Someone who should be replaced by me.

What's his main acc or is this guy completely new

VeryBest

over 8 years

what's going on? can someone make a TL DR?

i heard something about a mod being a pedophile irl

JeffreyAaron

over 8 years

IAmNotABC says

CODY KNOWS WHATS GOING ON. BUT CODY IS ADMIN. HE CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS AND SAY TO HIS PUPPET MODS: DONT OPPOSE ME OR I WILL DEMOD YOU!

logs please.

IAmNotABC

over 8 years

Matt12 says

Who is Cody btw

Someone who should be replaced by me.

leo

over 8 years

moon says

it's okay everyone will forget about these issues by next week and they'll still be modded

Seriously, this is an echo chamber. Isn't that why Scuba left?

deletedover 8 years

I for one will never forget

Matt12

over 8 years

Who is Cody btw

tyrannosaurusrex

over 8 years

groundhogday says

i don't think she's a predator but i think giving someone who's been openly pedophilic a position of respect is pretty gross

That pretty much sums up most peoples' position with Ethereal. It's not like they chose to have their biology orientated in such a way.

I'd be behind you if they were in fact predatory. However, it seems as hell to be condemning someone for something they haven't done but could.

If you really don't want Ethereal remaining a moderator, look at their history of cheating, trolling, and abusing the site. That's a much better indicator of their unreliability than fearmongering.

moon

over 8 years

it's okay everyone will forget about these issues by next week and they'll still be modded

JeffreyAaron

over 8 years

Y'all get such hard ons from referring to people by their old account names rather than the one's they're posting on. This is funny to watch.

The

over 8 years

Tsugumi says

The says

You realize he's been a role mod for more than 2 weeks, right? And the only difference between actual mods and role mods are doing reports and keys, none of which make it easier to obtain passwords.

I do realize. After three direct dodges I guess you're not taking the bet you spineless wimp. Condescending as hell but can't back anything up when you're called on it.

Why would I bet $5 when the only thing I stand to win is a measly 20 tokens?

Tsugumi says

The says

Also, unlike some of the fools who use the same password for every website, I know a thing or two about account security. I utilize a custom-built tool that constructs an unguessable password which can't be obtained via a script, and change it regularly.

1. I never questioned this.
2. I've done the same for all of my internet accounts that matter.
3. Constructing a script to do so should not be a prerequisite for continued use of the site, nor should taking security measures regularly not taken for websites containing much more sensitive information.

Randomly generating a 20 char password every week for use on Epicmafia.com alone (even using combinations of LastPass & scripts & similar) should not be a prerequisite for an epicmafia.com account.

1. You did pretty much question it when you said I was either an idiot or Arcbell had my password
2. Unless you use the same password for every site, I wasn't referring to you
3. It's not a prerequisite, and using an unguessable password that you don't repeat across sites and is changed somewhat regularly is standard for all websites and is definitely necessary for more sensitive sites. Measures much more extreme are taken on those sites, including 2 step authentication, IP address registration via email, etc.

IAmNotABC

over 8 years

CODY KNOWS WHATS GOING ON. BUT CODY IS ADMIN. HE CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS AND SAY TO HIS PUPPET MODS: DONT OPPOSE ME OR I WILL DEMOD YOU!

deletedover 8 years

Sims says

this just made me realize i've been on this website for 6 years, i think it's time to self delete.

DO IT, JUST DO IT. PULL THE TRIGGER BRO

IAmNotABC

over 8 years

Try being 7-8

deletedover 8 years

That hash is Base64, by the way. Not that it really matters.

leo

over 8 years

Also, the mod team has covered for Ethereal this entire time without letting her speak. Cody being told she was a pedophile but not taking it seriously makes the situation even worse- I assume they'll do background checks next time, but a lot of people were calling for her to be demodded.

Sims

over 8 years

this just made me realize i've been on this website for 6 years, i think it's time to self delete.

deletedover 8 years

I wonder if he's referring to his script that just takes a user password, adds 1337 to the beginning and end, does a basic hash, and then adds a null character to the start+end, and stores it. That would be great.

IAmNotABC

over 8 years

Real issue is me not being admin.

Sims

over 8 years

as someone who was around during the time, she has definitely admitted to that in the past. i attributed it to her not being her true self since she wasn't an open transgender person at the time, but if she's calling it a joke instead then that's worrisome.

arcbell is the real issue though

deletedover 8 years

Wait hold up I wanna brag about my art award gimme a minute

leo

over 8 years

mindful says

leo says

mindful says

if it's true that petri is a pedophile then she/he shouldn't be on mod EM team because i genuinely feel uncomfortable knowing that we have a pedophile on EM

what are the admins and mod team going to do about it?

Empire and Togepi insist they're a pedophile, and I believe them. Logs also show they liked hentai and watched lolicon.

Apparently, nothing. Empire told Cody beforehand, Cody didn't believe her, and no one in the mod group knew what Preti was.

people are saying that she admitted that shes a pedo and watches CP openly

When you show pedophilic tendencies, lolicon hentai generally isn't considered to just be hentai.

Preti has denied it openly, but I'm with Empire and Togepi on this. She's a pedophile.

Matt12

over 8 years

mindful says

leo says

mindful says

if it's true that petri is a pedophile then she/he shouldn't be on mod EM team because i genuinely feel uncomfortable knowing that we have a pedophile on EM

what are the admins and mod team going to do about it?

Empire and Togepi insist they're a pedophile, and I believe them. Logs also show they liked hentai and watched lolicon.

Apparently, nothing. Empire told Cody beforehand, Cody didn't believe her, and no one in the mod group knew what Preti was.

people are saying that she admitted that shes a pedo and watches CP openly

lol