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Question RE: Ethereal

over 8 years

The question posed in this thread is not necessarily one of the moderation team, the site owner lucidrains/Phillip Wang, or other moderators/admins on the moderation team of this website.

People are calling for Ethereal's head because they were recently promoted from role moderator to moderator. The people calling for Ethereal to be demodded are generally viewing and accusing Ethereal as a predator.

My question is, if you guys care so much about Ethereal being a potential predator, should you not be arguing that Ethereal should be site banned? (Personally, I don't think Ethereal should be site banned. She has done her time for being banned and is currently a very big help for the moderators and cheating investigation team, in my opinion.) Your argument seems to not want to rid the website of possible predators, but to just make sure they don't become moderators. It doesn't really make much sense to me.

And even if Ethereal is demodded, guess what? She's still going to help with Cheating cases and finding banned users... nothing is going to change (except that she won't be able to do reports). Is that really going to be a sigh of relief for all of you?

So if Ethereal is demodded, what difference is it to you people if she's still allowed to be on the website...?

EDIT:

I am in favour of demodding Ethereal to please the community fwiw (I was before I even made this thread), but if we do that I don't really get why they are even allowed to be on the site anyways. I'm seeing these arguments I just don't agree with them; potential is potential at the end of the day, and I believe Ethereal should be allowed to stay on the site

over 8 years

Tsugumi says

jokes on everyone i'm june 2010 i joined when i was 13 and haven't matured since


Xxerox trumps you.
over 8 years

Tsugumi says

jokes on everyone i'm june 2010 i joined when i was 13 and haven't matured since


And yet I beat you by a month. Trolled.
over 8 years
it wouldn't be the first time
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Whitepimp007 says


Tsugumi says

quote from ethereal circa 2011/2012: "if i child came up to me and asked me to have sex i really don't think i could say no"


Can we keep posting this? I feel it's relevant.


that's disguisting
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I'd like a position on the role mod team.
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jokes on everyone i'm june 2010 i joined when i was 13 and haven't matured since
over 8 years
Eventually someone is going to freak out and contact the authorities.
over 8 years

Tsugumi says

quote from ethereal circa 2011/2012: "if i child came up to me and asked me to have sex i really don't think i could say no"


Can we keep posting this? I feel it's relevant.
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Himiko - that link didnt work or u can just summarize it for me
over 8 years

JeffreyAaron says

Let's all assert that our opinions matter more than anyone who joined EM after us. I joined in 2011 so Xxerox trumps me but I trump Gerry. Let's get going.


Crap, April 2013 doesn't bode well for me
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mindful says

oh? then i blame b......that...person....for false information (about watching CP)

but yes, lolicon could turn a person into a pedophile and pray on real little kids. lolicon = an attraction to most types of lolicon is a decided indication of pedophilia. that said, it's still entirely possible that a person would be attracted to that and NOT real children. if right now peptri is looking at drawings, it's possible (but not certain) that they tastes COULD evolve into something even less savory.

TL;DR: there is a big difference between someone who is attracted to children sexually (or other things like animals or certain sexual practices like bondage) and someone who acts upon their addiction/attraction


quote from ethereal circa 2011/2012: "if i child came up to me and asked me to have sex i really don't think i could say no"
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Totori says


leo says


mindful says

TL;DR: there is a big difference between someone who is attracted to children sexually (or other things like animals or certain sexual practices like bondage) and someone who acts upon their addiction/attraction


I personally agree with you, but this definitely should have been looked into more. The community should have been asked, given it has minors in it, if a pedophile should have been promoted.


Nah, it's not that black and white. That's like saying someone who plays violent video games, or watches murder flicks will become closer to being violent.


ok but it's the drawings of little anime girls, not dead ppl
over 8 years

mindful says

yes, that'd be a great idea but since we're talking about petri, we should ask EM community if they are a pedophile and make a decision whether they should be on the team or not


Also a valid point. I'm not a mod though, so.

As for White, I don't think it's much of a conspiracy as it was just... the conclusion? Seriously, no mod was talking about it for almost a full day.
over 8 years

leo says


Totori says


leo says


mindful says

TL;DR: there is a big difference between someone who is attracted to children sexually (or other things like animals or certain sexual practices like bondage) and someone who acts upon their addiction/attraction


I personally agree with you, but this definitely should have been looked into more. The community should have been asked, given it has minors in it, if a pedophile should have been promoted.


Nah, it's not that black and white. That's like saying someone who plays violent video games, or watches murder flicks will become closer to being violent.


Are you talking to me or Mindful?


Mostly mindful on that one.
over 8 years

Tsugumi says

remember when the only way to deal with hotwhipzx/wendys was to stop playing or make secret alts


I follow Wendy's on snap. He was recently in Vegas.
over 8 years
Let's all assert that our opinions matter more than anyone who joined EM after us. I joined in 2011 so Xxerox trumps me but I trump Gerry. Let's get going.
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mindful says

oh? then i blame b......that...person....for false information (about watching CP)

but yes, lolicon could turn a person into a pedophile and pray on real little kids. lolicon = an attraction to most types of lolicon is a decided indication of pedophilia. that said, it's still entirely possible that a person would be attracted to that and NOT real children. if right now peptri is looking at drawings, it's possible (but not certain) that they tastes COULD evolve into something even less savory.

TL;DR: there is a big difference between someone who is attracted to children sexually (or other things like animals or certain sexual practices like bondage) and someone who acts upon their addiction/attraction


http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/18/world/asia/japan-manga-anime-/
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remember when the only way to deal with hotwhipzx/wendys was to stop playing or make secret alts
over 8 years

leo says

IN MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION... I wouldn't have minded. It just looked really suspicious when it came up and the mod team didn't say anything, like they were excusing their actions.

But w/e.


Agreed, but I tend to err on the side of thoughtlessness rather than conspiracy.
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leo says


mindful says

TL;DR: there is a big difference between someone who is attracted to children sexually (or other things like animals or certain sexual practices like bondage) and someone who acts upon their addiction/attraction


I personally agree with you, but this definitely should have been looked into more. The community should have been asked, given it has minors in it, if a pedophile should have been promoted.


yes, that'd be a great idea but since we're talking about petri, we should ask EM community if they are a pedophile and make a decision whether they should be on the team or not
over 8 years

Totori says


leo says


mindful says

TL;DR: there is a big difference between someone who is attracted to children sexually (or other things like animals or certain sexual practices like bondage) and someone who acts upon their addiction/attraction


I personally agree with you, but this definitely should have been looked into more. The community should have been asked, given it has minors in it, if a pedophile should have been promoted.


Nah, it's not that black and white. That's like saying someone who plays violent video games, or watches murder flicks will become closer to being violent.


Are you talking to me or Mindful?
over 8 years
How about when Lucid temporarily took down the site and everyone had to beg him to put it back up?

HE DOESN'T KNOW. Ok I'm done being nostalgic.
over 8 years

leo says


mindful says

TL;DR: there is a big difference between someone who is attracted to children sexually (or other things like animals or certain sexual practices like bondage) and someone who acts upon their addiction/attraction


I personally agree with you, but this definitely should have been looked into more. The community should have been asked, given it has minors in it, if a pedophile should have been promoted.


Nah, it's not that black and white. That's like saying someone who plays violent video games, or watches murder flicks will become closer to being violent.
over 8 years
He doesn't even UNDERSTAND
over 8 years

Whitepimp007 says


leo says


mindful says

TL;DR: there is a big difference between someone who is attracted to children sexually (or other things like animals or certain sexual practices like bondage) and someone who acts upon their addiction/attraction


I personally agree with you, but this definitely should have been looked into more. The community should have been asked, given it has minors in it, if a pedophile should have been promoted.


ITT: We should let minors decide if they want their mod to be a pedo or not.


IN MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION... I wouldn't have minded. It just looked really suspicious when it came up and the mod team didn't say anything, like they were excusing their actions.

But w/e.