We demand action

Edgeworthhover 10 years ago

This has gone on far too long. The Epicmafia user WildWalrus was banned today very unjustly. I have talked to the admin Roadman and screenshots of the conversation will be below.

The Reason according to Roadman: He refused to tell him his "Main Account"

Now what's wrong with this? First of all, me and Walrus do not only have a client to professional relationship, but a friendship. The facts are, Walrus claimed he had no main account and WildWalrus was his main. Roadman even confirms that they checked his IP logins and no accounts showed up on the same as his. There was no reason, and if Walrus's subject about mod abuse was null before, this is real mod abuse. You can't ban someone based on thinking they are a banned user and having no IP conflicts. Otherwise you could ban anyone you didn't like for this reason. Which is exactly what he did. All the proof is in the screenshots below. I demand an unban of my client. He was exercising free speech and wasn't even banned until Roadman decided to censor him. Walrus's threads were even deleted in response to the threads exposing the truth instead of locking them. Isn't that a hint of the real motives of the mods who deleted and banned him? If you don't stand up for people in your community, when this happens to you, no one will be able to stand up for you.

EVIDENCE 1

MY INITAL MESSAGE: http://puu.sh/oEnm0.png

RESPONSE: http://puu.sh/oEnGk.png

EVIDENCE 2

He claims the other accounts were Walrus: http://puu.sh/oEnIg.png

(YET HE CAN'T CORRESPOND AN IP FROM ANY OF THOSE AND BEETS ADMITTED BEING ONE)

ROADMAN ASSUMING ABOUT BEET

http://puu.sh/oEnXt.png

SIDE NOTE

Roadman is a good guy. I have nothing against him. The only thing wrong is my client was banned unjustly and I am asking for a reverse because the only reason for a ban is conjecture. Thank you for promptly responding to me Roadman and your time in the matter through our messages. I am sorry we could not resolve it that way. I am just doing my job.

Thank you all for your time.

Kind Regards,

Miles Edgeworth

EDIT Couldn't have said this better myself http://pastebin.com/RaE9s3S3

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By signing this petition you agree that Walrus should either be unbanned because of the false accusations or to bring this matter to a court room of law.
Edarkover 10 years ago
gerrysuck
Edark
I find it very strange that so many new alts are popping up in the forums whom got low points and that random users with no priror forumexperience actually come here and write long threads like these

Very suspicous
looks like a user who isn't banned but wants to remain anonymous ah yes very suspicious
I cant really see a reason why someone would want to be anonymous on this issue tbh. Unless you're a huge p*ssy I guess? Its not like its a controversial topic or anything.
Edarkover 10 years ago
AItair
Edark
I find it very strange that so many new alts are popping up in the forums whom got low points and that random users with no priror forumexperience actually come here and write long threads like these

Very suspicous
The forums are v dangerous please only use if you have excessive prior experience. Type safely.

Nobody new comes to EM ever.
Unironically true lmao
Gerryover 10 years ago
SimplyPam
GERRY STOP FREAKING NEGGING ME
stop making bad posts and I will
2
AItairover 10 years ago
Edark
I find it very strange that so many new alts are popping up in the forums whom got low points and that random users with no priror forumexperience actually come here and write long threads like these

Very suspicous
The forums are v dangerous please only use if you have excessive prior experience. Type safely.

Nobody new comes to EM ever.
2
gerrysuckover 10 years ago
Edark
I find it very strange that so many new alts are popping up in the forums whom got low points and that random users with no priror forumexperience actually come here and write long threads like these

Very suspicous
looks like a user who isn't banned but wants to remain anonymous ah yes very suspicious
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Codyover 10 years ago
yo n1ed the 5th amendment right doesn't apply to an online community
deletedover 10 years ago
i demand action
Edarkover 10 years ago
I find it very strange that so many new alts are popping up in the forums whom got low points and that random users with no priror forumexperience actually come here and write long threads like these

Very suspicous
MitsurugiReijiover 10 years ago
I just came here to say, "Hello other Edgeworth, when did you go to defense?" :3
Edgeworthhover 10 years ago
I think a lot of people have agreed, even many mods, this should be resolved with an unban. It does not make sense to banned for his reasonings. We have stated our reasoning and no mod penalties should be taken for the ban. Mistakes happen. I am not speaking on the Pam and Anna situation. That seemed like intentional. This was not. So can we please make this happen? Arc said he would talk to him about it, but why not just do it? As soon as he is unbanned, this thread will be locked. Thank you all for your support and also mods for your consideration. You are what makes this community great.
deletedover 10 years ago
I kind of see it like this:
There's a criminal. He commits all the crimes (all of them I guess), and although the police handle the situation, his whereabouts are unknown. Years later, the police find someone that they particularly find annoying (and that causes a fuss around their town), and they look into said person. They find that there may be a connection between this super-criminal and this supposedly annoying person. Thus, they take him into questioning. After that is finished, he tells the public that they are corrupt. They shut him up and question him further. The cycle continues, and eventually, they ask him for proof that he specifically is not the super-criminal. He refuses to provide this evidence, so they arrest him. He did nothing wrong, but took (in law people thing terms), his fifth amendment right.

So, is it just to take disciplinary action for the refusal to out information? I suppose this situation is a bit different, but this could be handled a bit better.
deletedover 10 years ago
so it looks like 4 possibilities:
1. W A L R U S outs main account, and it is not WildWalrus. it is not IP banned / still facing ban. he is unbanned.
2. W A L R U S outs main account, and it is not WildWalrus. however, the account is IP banned / still facing ban. he stays banned.
3. W A L R U S outs main account, and it is WildWalrus. he stays banned. (a possibility that might need to be looked into)
4. W A L R U S does not out his main account. he stays banned.

idk this post doesn't really show any opinion but is there anything else that can happen other than these? i guess it makes the situation easier to understand
Ichizonover 10 years ago
F R E E W A L R U S
athenaover 10 years ago
Satan
SimplyPam
starting to have a strong dislike for wild sea animals
um....
NO SATAN, we still love wild sea animals
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IAmNotABCover 10 years ago
This is a dictatorship if we are forced to out our main accounts when we have none.
deletedover 10 years ago
Satan
SimplyPam
starting to have a strong dislike for wild sea animals
um....
I still like u, it's okay
deletedover 10 years ago
GERRY STOP FREAKING NEGGING ME
Sherlock221Bover 10 years ago
I don't know Walrus personally, but this seems pretty stupid. Walrus has done nothing wrong and I think that just because some mods dislike him doesn't mean he should be banned. As for the whole keeping his Main a secret, I don't know if there's any EM rules about having to out their Main, but from what I've read it's like Walrus is a good player and hasn't done anything that should get him banned. So please, unban this player. It must be terrible to be banned when you haven't even done anything wrong.
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Satanover 10 years ago
SimplyPam
starting to have a strong dislike for wild sea animals
um....
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Kitleroover 10 years ago
Stanko
WildWalRus has been banned for what?? Because someone thinks he might be a banned user?? What is there anything about WildWalRus which leads him to be a banned user?? If he was a banned user, wouldn't he by now had violated any of the rules in game play???
Allegedly being linked to three banned users. It's in the reports. You should also note he's only received one violation before this. For his cap speak as cop.

Apparently his being annoying and possible links to the banned was worth a ban despite no hard evidence or rule breaking and had no issues before he started calling out mod abuse against himself, highlighting his second violation which was overturned due to collaboration between two mods.

Personally I find his 30+ month static IP address (The last time the last banned user he's suspected to be related to logged on) interesting. It'd be a very rare thing to have happen.
Stankoover 10 years ago
WildWalRus has been banned for what?? Because someone thinks he might be a banned user?? What is there anything about WildWalRus which leads him to be a banned user?? If he was a banned user, wouldn't he by now had violated any of the rules in game play???
Zhuorbover 10 years ago
Edark
ling
Edark
I remember playing with
Edgeworth/Dancingdogs/Moxie/Dancingdodo quite a lot back in the day, the Euro/Aus squad was real
edgy moxie and mieke was the crew that got me addicted to mafia
Mieke's love threads for juneau were hilarious
I remember these
deletedover 10 years ago
thank you for your opinion connor
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Edarkover 10 years ago
Man I loved the MC crew aswell, one of my proudest moments of epicmafiadotcom was when I finally got my invite to them

They kinda were all banned/inactive by then tho but that doesnt matter
Edarkover 10 years agoedited
ling
Edark
I remember playing with
Edgeworth/Dancingdogs/Moxie/Dancingdodo quite a lot back in the day, the Euro/Aus squad was real
edgy moxie and mieke was the crew that got me addicted to mafia
Mieke's love threads for juneau were hilarious