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"you can't be racist to whites"

Golbolco
over 8 years

This is what moderator Hibiki proclaimed in defense of this appeal: https://epicmafia.com/report/178422 (I have collected photo evidence in case the report/comments are removed.)

I'm not going to argue the meaning of racism because I don't want to. I know all the trade counter-arguments to any dictionary definition.

Let's start by pointing out historical examples of racism against groups historically considered caucasian. I don't know what definition the mod team uses for caucasian but it shouldn't matter since they mod a mafia sim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_genocide

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

All three of these groups had genocide committed on them because they were members of the groups. These groups were ethnic, meaning they had at least a genetic and possibly a cultural/linguistic affiliation with each other. Was the extermination of the Jews by the hands of Germany not a case of racism against white people?

How about cases of systemic racism against certain white ethnicities?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiziganism#18th_century

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Italianism#Violence_against_Italians

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_for_the_Settlement_of_Ireland_1652

Here are several cases of systemic racism against white ethnicities. Are the mods going to tell me that the Irish displacement and following Irish slave trade aren't racist?

Your politics are interfering with the moderation process, and that's not okay. A white nationalist shouldn't no-vio an HC report calling black people the N-word.

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KuteKoala
over 8 years
there is no point for this thread to exist connie chan
roadman
over 8 years

mist says

i think we should form a naval blockade around Ireland and let them all starve


They'll never run out of potatoes.
deletedover 8 years
If i go to china and they reject me from becoming a fighting monk is that xenophobia or racism?
Golbolco
over 8 years

Hibiki says

the irish weren't killed for being white. they were killed for being irish. that's probably the same as the rest of your examples


Aren't Irish people a kind of white?
deletedover 8 years
do i get an HC vio for that
deletedover 8 years
i think we should form a naval blockade around Ireland and let them all starve
Hibiki
over 8 years
this is exactly the kind of thread u dont lock, calvin
deletedover 8 years
i hate the irish
Hibiki
over 8 years
the irish weren't killed for being white. they were killed for being irish. that's probably the same as the rest of your examples
roadman
over 8 years

mist says


Golbolco says


mist says


OP says

I'm not going to argue the meaning of racism because I don't want to.


r u sure about that m8?


Yeah, pretty sure. If you're interested since I know you must be, I use the Oxford English Dictionary definition of racism:

Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior:
"a program to combat racism"


u say ur not going to argue the meaning of racism

then u spend the rest of the op arguing the meaning of racism

:T


Classic misdirection.

Golbolco
over 8 years

mist says


Golbolco says


mist says


OP says

I'm not going to argue the meaning of racism because I don't want to.


r u sure about that m8?


Yeah, pretty sure. If you're interested since I know you must be, I use the Oxford English Dictionary definition of racism:

Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior:
"a program to combat racism"


u say ur not going to argue the meaning of racism

then u spend the rest of the op arguing the meaning of racism

:T


I was giving examples of racism imposed on white ethnic groups. I wasn't arguing any definition of racism.
KuteKoala
over 8 years
connor u can lock this thread now
Golbolco
over 8 years

Hydra says

was anyone actually offended by the original report?


It seems SilentDriver was, unless he was just filing reports for the sake of it.
deletedover 8 years
crackers
deletedover 8 years
We've already had this thread its dumb. They confuse systematic oppression against minorities with the general term of racism there's no purpose in really arguing with them.
deletedover 8 years

Hibiki says

im white


Do you at least know who Jonathan Swift is?
deletedover 8 years

Golbolco says


mist says


OP says

I'm not going to argue the meaning of racism because I don't want to.


r u sure about that m8?


Yeah, pretty sure. If you're interested since I know you must be, I use the Oxford English Dictionary definition of racism:

Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior:
"a program to combat racism"


u say ur not going to argue the meaning of racism

then u spend the rest of the op arguing the meaning of racism

:T
Hibiki
over 8 years
im white
deletedover 8 years
was anyone actually offended by the original report?
roadman
over 8 years

Golbolco says


mist says


OP says

I'm not going to argue the meaning of racism because I don't want to.


r u sure about that m8?


Yeah, pretty sure. If you're interested since I know you must be, I use the Oxford English Dictionary definition of racism:

Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior:
"a program to combat racism"


Last time I used the Oxford English Dictionary for this very discussion, I was told that the Oxford English Dictionary was written by predominantly white men and should therefore be ignored.
deletedover 8 years

roadman says

Lock thread. This was a let down.


What do you know, Internet Game Mod Guy.
Golbolco
over 8 years

mist says


OP says

I'm not going to argue the meaning of racism because I don't want to.


r u sure about that m8?


Yeah, pretty sure. If you're interested since I know you must be, I use the Oxford English Dictionary definition of racism:

Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior:
"a program to combat racism"
roadman
over 8 years
Lock thread. This was a let down.
deletedover 8 years
tbt to that one time some1 got an HC vio for saying "down with cis".