I want to hear feedback from the EM community and I'd like to know what you'd like to see happening in the moderation team. This is a thread that everyone is welcome to express their likes/dislikes about the team, what needs to be improved, what should stay the same, what should be HC/ what shouldn't.. just a few examples.
I'm asking for constructive criticism, please don't be rude. This is the first step into making the moderation team better and it would really help getting the communities insight on thing.
-What should be HC? What shouldn't?
-Should HC consequences change?
-What changes would make the mod team better?
-Do you guys believe people are reporting out of spite instead of actually being offended?
deletedover 9 years
He is saying that we should explain what has been changed instead of just telling users to go read the rules.
1. I find it annoying that mods insult normal users using their popularity and abilities. If you are a mod you must talk with full respect in forums and reports. If someone is writing a long message here, it means he cares about here and the people but most of the times he ends up humiliated. (And if you really want to change things, those mods who humiliate others are clearly not capable of being a mod and mass delete them from mod list. Take really respectful people, not the ones who will act because you force them to.) 2. There must not be "in the mod chat and there's reason behind any violation given or taken away." kind of explanations. There is no need for secrets here. They are being read as "we go out of the rules because hes our friend" anyways.
deletedover 9 years
Well, it reinforces the idea that the mods are working with the community instead of for. It not only gives a place for discussion, but it also serves as a way for players to read more closely about what was changed.
Also, even though I didn't want to suggest an answer to any of my questions to think about, I will say to keep in mind that the vast, vast majority of community suggestions are awful and the amount of posts with thoughtful, valid critiques is a few orders of magnitude less than number of posts with objectively incorrect garbage.
This thread is no different and the majority of posts can probably be safely discarded by the end.
That is not to say that the posters are necessarily wrong in their conclusion (ex. There is a strong case to be made either way for HC discussion.), as you can have garbage, undirected, objectively incorrect reasoning and still come to a valid conclusion-see most mafia games, for instance.
When you announce rule changes, or any other major changes, I think you should say more than "We changed 'x' read more about it on the rules page." Instead, you should say this, what exactly you changed, and maybe even make a thread with why you came to the conclusion. I think the main thing that people fight over is clarity; not everything is always clear in terms of what to do and what not to do. Transparency in this aspect would definitely help players to not only understand the rules, but also the moderators' intent. I haven't seen too much of this lately.
Sorry if I am bad at explaining what I mean, I am not very good with words.
deletedover 9 years
can I be moderator yet
lilin vs the mods: a tale of epic proportions: season 2!
Also, keep a list of ALL HC words, whether you keep them "automatic" or not. A list doesn't make it any more different than not having one, besides the fact that you have clarity. It isn't a permanent list because you can always amend it. Also, about my comment of getting rid of all automatic first-time HC, it's important to do this because there are some people accustomed to different vocabularies, such as c***. Giving someone a slap on the wrist without a warning would likely scare someone off in such a short amount of time. Give them a verbal warning first before you give them any sanctions.
deletedover 9 years
Things to think about to be a good moderator:
1. Evaluate the game theoretically. What are valid and invalid ways of playing? Do these coincide with what should and shouldn't be worthy of a violation? What should you be looking for in game-related violations-intent, effect, a combination, one or the other depending on the rule? Playing infuriatingly and without regard for others may be violation worthy-but it might also not. On the flip side, playing in a way that angers few may still be violation worthy. What do these cases look like?
2. Evaluate what it means to be a moderator on the site. Here to represent the playerbase and follow through with their desires or to guide them? A mix? Are you a report machine, a debater, a rule creator, somewhat of each? What do you imagine that you should be moderating? How kind or mean people are, what they say, what setups they play, what? What kind of things do you imagine you should have a say in?
deletedover 9 years
Seems like a really awkward and badly done Sonseray impersonation.
I'm actually trying to help your cause and try to fix things on the team and this is your way of answering instead of giving constructive criticism. Don't whine about it if you don't want to help fix the problem.
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