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deletedalmost 9 years

I want to hear feedback from the EM community and I'd like to know what you'd like to see happening in the moderation team. This is a thread that everyone is welcome to express their likes/dislikes about the team, what needs to be improved, what should stay the same, what should be HC/ what shouldn't.. just a few examples.

I'm asking for constructive criticism, please don't be rude. This is the first step into making the moderation team better and it would really help getting the communities insight on thing.

-What should be HC? What shouldn't?

-Should HC consequences change?

-What changes would make the mod team better?

-Do you guys believe people are reporting out of spite instead of actually being offended?

Edark
almost 9 years

Edark says

I think that the moderation would be better if you stepped down


Im going to take this statement back and throw it towards mods whom deserve it
Hibiki
almost 9 years

rutab says


Hibiki says


rutab says


Hibiki says

why do you feel this is necessary?


Well, it reinforces the idea that the mods are working with the community instead of for. It not only gives a place for discussion, but it also serves as a way for players to read more closely about what was changed.


1. How? 2. Again, why is that necessary?


1.) If you put the moderators and the players in the same mindset, whether you/they agree or not, it allows everyone to at least understand where you're coming from.

2.) I thought I answered this before, but maybe I wasn't clear. It is necessary because the only thing it could do is benefit the players and the moderators. I don't see the downside to this. Can you, and if so, please explain?


1. sure, but this only applies to "why we think the rule should be handled this way" not "what this means for you as a player"

2. the reason i challenge this suggestion is because i believe that a rule should be well-written enough so that the explanation shouldn't be needed for the rule to be followed correctly. if it's hard to follow the rule because you don't understand it, then the rule needs to be written better.

this clearly doesn't apply when discussing the justification of how the rule is handled
deletedalmost 9 years

kitsune says


Togepi says

You should educate your fellow moderators about actual racial slurs and not overmoderate HC by giving someone a HC violation for typing the word 'N' in a comment on the forums because you "believe" that they have the intent to type a racial slur. That is freaking ridiculous.


that fact that tatami disagrees with you means you're on the right path btw


Basing an argument off the quality of the user and in fact if you're basing your argument on the actual argument and deeming one as right or correct you are ignorant. The argument is surrounded by the actual action.
starfuel
almost 9 years
the N was silly but this deserved a vio lmao:
vilden
almost 9 years
i know what it's like to be a mod and want to find ways to vio people you don't like or to get rid of someone being a nuisance. it's just the way it is and most mods are like that
Becameclear
almost 9 years
@mods
Dont burn yourselves out, stay chill

"Do you guys believe people are reporting out of spite instead of actually being offended?"

Yeah, people report for HC just to give people vios. 100%
deletedalmost 9 years

Togepi says

You should educate your fellow moderators about actual racial slurs and not overmoderate HC by giving someone a HC violation for typing the word 'N' in a comment on the forums because you "believe"that they have the intent to type a racial slur. That is freaking ridiculous.


Devante
almost 9 years

Togepi says

You should educate your fellow moderators about actual racial slurs and not overmoderate HC by giving someone a HC violation for typing the word 'N' in a comment on the forums because you "believe" that they have the intent to type a racial slur. That is freaking ridiculous.


nah he deserved a vio for that, and i woulda given him one.

the 2 people who didn't get vios should've gotten a vio though
Edark
almost 9 years

Togepi says

You should educate your fellow moderators about actual racial slurs and not overmoderate HC by giving someone a HC violation for typing the word 'N' in a comment on the forums because you "believe" that they have the intent to type a racial slur. That is freaking ridiculous.


Preach it
xSoniaNeverMindx
almost 9 years
-Do you guys believe people are reporting out of spite instead of actually being offended? HAHAHAHA G-GETTING OFFENDED ON THE INTERNET HAHAHAHA

*Ahem* Yes.
deletedalmost 9 years

Togepi says

You should educate your fellow moderators about actual racial slurs and not overmoderate HC by giving someone a HC violation for typing the word 'N' in a comment on the forums because you "believe" that they have the intent to type a racial slur. That is freaking ridiculous.


that fact that tatami disagrees with you means you're on the right path btw
deletedalmost 9 years
Mods are self-indulging narcissists with ivory tower syndrome. They can break any rule and it won't matter. The system is broken therefore I must act broken accordingly
Togepi
almost 9 years
You should educate your fellow moderators about actual racial slurs and not overmoderate HC by giving someone a HC violation for typing the word 'N' in a comment on the forums because you "believe" that they have the intent to type a racial slur. That is freaking ridiculous.
deletedalmost 9 years
it's actually been painfully terrible lately
deletedalmost 9 years
If you care about this website a whole lot you would at least abide to the terms whenever they are changed. Modsrthefkers though
Hibiki
almost 9 years

SimplyPam says


Hibiki says

I understand what he's saying. I'm asking why it's needed.


For clarity.. so we don't get the excuse of "I didn't see it" or "I didn't know"


that problem will exist regardless of how the rule change is presented. if they miss an announcement informing you of the rule change, they miss the announcement linking the thread that explains why we changed it.
deletedalmost 9 years
Ignorance of the rules only leads to yourself to blame. If you're notified that they have changed, you have yourself to blame.
starfuel
almost 9 years
i think you guys are doing an A-ok job
trolleyz
almost 9 years
its not necessary at all hibiki but it helps educate the playerbase and can even serve to acknowledge them as well in some cases

for example, rutabs case where if it was brought up WHY the rule was changed, probably some people would be impressed the way it was changed to actually help lessen the severity of a rule a lot of people see as too heavily moderated (HC) because of a report moderated on female

instead, you had skillz make a topic complaining about the change in ruling because (and imo hes right) the wording you used makes it sound like the moderator gets free reign in no vioing his friends if he wants to

"Any other hateful derogatory language and content intended to offend will be left to the moderator's discretion."


btw, i don't think its necessary but there's some pros to it to help outweigh the cons
xSoniaNeverMindx
almost 9 years

SimplyPam says


Hibiki says

I understand what he's saying. I'm asking why it's needed.


For clarity.. so we don't get the excuse of "I didn't see it" or "I didn't know"


THIS IS HOW I GOT MY FIRST VIO THANK YOU
deletedalmost 9 years
lucid is my vater. I hold more authority than a regular moderator
vilden
almost 9 years
everytime hibiki posts, someone somewhere says the n word
deletedalmost 9 years

Hibiki says

I understand what he's saying. I'm asking why it's needed.


For clarity.. so we don't get the excuse of "I didn't see it" or "I didn't know"
deletedalmost 9 years

Hibiki says


rutab says


Hibiki says

why do you feel this is necessary?


Well, it reinforces the idea that the mods are working with the community instead of for. It not only gives a place for discussion, but it also serves as a way for players to read more closely about what was changed.


1. How? 2. Again, why is that necessary?


1.) If you put the moderators and the players in the same mindset, whether you/they agree or not, it allows everyone to at least understand where you're coming from.

2.) I thought I answered this before, but maybe I wasn't clear. It is necessary because the only thing it could do is benefit the players and the moderators. I don't see the downside to this. Can you, and if so, please explain?
Hibiki
almost 9 years
I understand what he's saying. I'm asking why it's needed.