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MrsWiggles

almost 9 years

UniversalStudios

almost 9 years

Satan says

i don't have a god

You do not believe this.

Satan

almost 9 years

i don't have a god

Peta

almost 9 years

UniversalStudios says

Well our technology and generations of immunities didn't help any of the native cultures we dominated.

Also compare South Africa to the 'rest of Africa' and do tell what damage was done.

Huh? Are you agreeing with me or disagreeing with me?

You can't really fault scientifically primitive 16th-century Europeans for not realizing that they were killing off ton of Native Americans with germs.

The South African apartheid - fairly flipping bold opinion coming up right here, folks - was an appalling sequence of atrocities, and the whole world should be embarrassed that it happened so recently.

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Agnosticism is the true belief.

UniversalStudios

almost 9 years

Satan says

god isn't real

Yours isn't.

Satan

almost 9 years

god isn't real

UniversalStudios

almost 9 years

Peta says

Islam has been imperialistic since day one.

I'm sure this has absolutely nothing to do with the region.

UniversalStudios

almost 9 years

Well our technology and generations of immunities didn't help any of the native cultures we dominated.

Also compare South Africa to the 'rest of Africa' and do tell what damage was done.

Peta

almost 9 years

UniversalStudios says

I always find it amusing how Peta consistently can site sources for his anti-religious theology.

Agreed. My use of facts makes for truly knee-slapping good fun.

UniversalStudios

almost 9 years

I always find it amusing how Peta consistently can site sources for his anti-religious theology.

Peta

almost 9 years

UniversalStudios says

Peta says

He literally conquered Arabia. He set out to unify it under his rule and he waged war against people who didn't want to submit to him.

The western version of this is what allows you to sit on your and make these arguments in the first place.

I agree. But you can't say that early Christianity was as violent and warlike as early Islam. Early Christians were by and large a bunch of harmless pacifistic proto-communists. Islam has been imperialistic since day one. Also, say what you will about Western imperialism - which, yes, has often run on the engine of politicized Christianity - and how it has done tremendous damage particularly to Africa, but at least the West doesn't install misogynistic totalitarian theocracies everywhere it goes.

Giga13

almost 9 years

oh god help us all, zovea's in a ~~religion~~ thread

UniversalStudios

almost 9 years

Peta says

He literally conquered Arabia. He set out to unify it under his rule and he waged war against people who didn't want to submit to him.

The western version of this is what allows you to sit on your and make these arguments in the first place.

Peta

almost 9 years

You are exemplifying precisely what's so twisted about all the weird apologetics surrounding historical Islam. You have bent over backward to convince yourself that, no, Muhammad really wasn't violent at all; he just had no freaking choice but to wage war on the people who dared to tell him they didn't want to join his theocratic empire.

Peta

almost 9 years

Warpig says

4.No.he only fought these who waged war against him.If you studied history on islam you would notice that The tribes of meeca waged war against prophet and islam.

He literally conquered Arabia. He set out to unify it under his rule and he waged war against people who didn't want to submit to him.

Peta

almost 9 years

As for whether or not Muhammad traded slaves:

Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah: A man decided that a slave of his would be manumitted after his death and later on he was in need of money, so the Prophet took the slave and said, "Who will buy this slave from me?" Nu'aim bin 'Abdullah bought him for such and such price and the Prophet gave him the slave.
— Sahih al-Bukhari, 3:34:351 see also Sahih al-Bukhari, 3:51:598 Sahih al-Bukhari, 8:79:707 Sahih al-Bukhari, 9:85:80 Sahih al-Bukhari, 3:51:588 Sahih al-Bukhari, 3:46:711 Sahih al-Bukhari, 9:89:296

Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) reported: There came a slave and pledg- ed allegiance to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man)
— Sahih Muslim, 10:3901

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad%27s_views_on_slavery#Sold_and_bought_slaves

Peta

almost 9 years

Interesting argument. On the other hand, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banu_Qurayza

Warpig

almost 9 years

*continue*

4.No.he only fought these who waged war against him.If you studied history on islam you would notice that The tribes of meeca waged war against prophet and islam.

What we have heard about what our Muslim brothers are going through in kaafir countries in the north and the south, where they are being harassed and persecuted for something in which they did not take part and in which they played no role, is not strange, given the wrongdoing and hatred of the kuffaar, even though they claim to be the people of justice, fairness and freedom. What is the crime of a Muslim woman who walks down the street in her hijaab? What is the crime of a Muslim who leaves his home to go and pray, not to spread mischief in the land? What is the crime of a Muslim employee who goes to his company or a student who goes to his university or a schoolgirl who is walking to her school, not going out to bomb and destroy? If the western man in the street was fair-minded – at least with himself – he would go and take revenge on the people who plotted and took part in harming him. But one who does not fear God could do anything, and the very least that the Muslims will be faced with is curses and insults.

Warpig

almost 9 years

Peta says

Christianity is pretty bad but at least Jesus et al. didn't marry and have sex with children, massacre entire tribes, capture/own/trade slaves, and spend a whole decade initiating wars of conquest.

1.Read this.http://islamqa.info/en/44990

2. He never massacred any tribes, In fact, he didn't attack anyone who didn't do anything to him in the first place. People who were against him either were ignored or surrendered or spared or Killed or Converted to Islam. I don't think you read the part where I replied to mafiagod about Muslims killing non believers. yet you claim you are not ignorant.

3.He never Traded slaves.But really did capture them.Non believers during time of war who are harming muslims can be enslaved BUT EVEN THESE AGAINST ISLAM have rights as slaves.Islam limited the sources of slaves that existed before the beginning of the Prophet’s mission to one way only: enslavement through war which was imposed on kaafir prisoners-of-war and on their womenfolk and children. These slaves had Rights and if they got converted to islam they can be freed.

tyrannosaurusrex

almost 9 years

According to Sahih al-Bukhari, one of the most eminent muslim historians that dealt with the prophet's life and his sayings; Muhammad married his third wife Aisha when she was six years old and consummated the marriage when she was nine. So yeah, Muhammad is a pedophile.

Peta

almost 9 years

eris says

Peta says

Warpig says

@Peta,Your ignorance is too damn high that I am not even gonna answer your Childish accusation when you state false information in the first place. Not all your saying is false, though

Please enumerate the false statements I made.

Pretty much everything you mentioned is a matter of accepted Islamic history isn't it?

Yeah. At least it's on Wikipedia,

I type, shrugging tremendously.

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Peta says

Warpig says

@Peta,Your ignorance is too damn high that I am not even gonna answer your Childish accusation when you state false information in the first place. Not all your saying is false, though

Please enumerate the false statements I made.

Pretty much everything you mentioned is a matter of accepted Islamic history isn't it?

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sweetnkind says

Psalm 81:10
I am the LORD your God, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt. Open your mouth wide, and I will fill it.

Psalm 119:131
I open my mouth and pant, longing for your commands.

Now I'm really hard

Peta

almost 9 years

Warpig says

@Peta,Your ignorance is too damn high that I am not even gonna answer your Childish accusation when you state false information in the first place. Not all your saying is false, though

Please enumerate the false statements I made.