If you say yes you're an idiot because if you say yes, then Cop can die, always. Like if they out, mafia can hit them forever, and doc saving them is Gamethrowing. So Cop outting means Cop dies.
If you say yes, you can have a setup with 1 hooker, 5 docs and 1 cop, if Cop claims Day 1 then they will die because if the doc saves cop it's GT. LOL
the doctor, by saving on a night where if no one dies is gamethrowing no matter what you say. you're being as stupid as the people in that last thread I made which I won't name if you think otherwise.
No one is getting covered on meteor night. Because by trying to cover someone, you only give yourself a better chance to lose the game. Therefore the mafia can safely assume that the clear isn't gonna be covered and hit the clear.
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If mafia knows 100% who is getting covered, and decide to risk the meteor they deserve the gt. The only time doc gts is if they try to save someone else the last night.
gai is literally the worst setup, like this happens like 50% of the time in that setup, i think i was the only one who objected to it
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town should always play to their best wincon, as should mafia. on meteor night town's best wincon is to not get a save, and mafia's best wincon is to kill the clear
Wouldn't the mafia's optimal play to bully into killing clear then? So why aren't they allowed to play for it.
On a moral standpoint the mafia should just go for another kill. But with how the rules work right now, I don't see why the mafia aren't allowed to attack the clear.
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I'm very mad that the criminal underworld that is the Mafia does not have to abide by the same rules as the stand-up townies.
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yes
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I dont think mafia should be aloud to bully the kill, it is the optimal play for the doc to keep the pr alive. I had a big argument with Voldemort ( who ended up being a banned user) in that one setup with watcher doc and he kept hitting the watcher over and over. It was decided he gtd when he forced the meteor, town should be allowed to play to their best wincon. As long as it isn't autoloss for mafia.
Well doc saving is playing against your win condition which classifies as gamethrowing. If you save correctly on meteor night, town loses 100%. So even though you have to let a clear die, at least you don't automatically lose. So saving = gt'ing.
