@Zwink your false accusations are baseless and hurts me. If you have proof about me talking with abc on skype, then post it. If abc was my friend, i don't think i'd try to get him banned over and over again(ex.: https://epicmafia.com/report/142558 ). Furthermore, i definitely don't agree with idea to refund wins only. I honestly disagree with refunding anything except the game when Abc vested me but not a sheriff, and when he lead a lynch on my cc without any discussions. This game seems unfair. What about other? We rolled prs in most of games and won by lynching/shooting mafia together. How is that cheating? However, if you decide to refund wins only, let me ask how is this fair? I lost one game as sheriff when Slay clearly threw by lynching towniest person MasterCheif instead of Oparadoe who was claiming mafia. Abc was in this game too. So why not refund the loss then? This loss is a contra arguement to any accusations. "He can clinch silver if loss gets refunded, but it's unfair becos he cheated" - firstly i didnt cheat as i didnt even know Abc is in my games. If i knew, i couldnt dodge him as i said before. Secondly, i would need to win 5\5, that's not impossible but really very hard, but if i accidentally would, then i would deserve silver trophy. You say the wins got affected by abc in my games? And there is your reason then for loss to be refunded, because abc was in that game too and it got affected by him aswell. The best decission there is to let me replay one game only or none of them at all(and just give me the trophy...), because i think i deserved a trophy with trying veryhard and having 10/11 wins in beginning and for good games later. And the last 5 games with abc decide nothing. Possible but unfair decision to make me replay my last 4 or 5 games. If the other decission is being made, then I'm sorry for making moderators to pause the round and you should start another one. Sorry, im just being honest
I'm not going after proof, you're not worth my time. However, multiple players have already stated that you ruined games for them with you alternate accounts.
@MattHelders I would like you not to say this, if you dont have the exact proofs. And i know you don't, because if you check stats of my alts ObviousThing, Bourboner(he was top 28 too), Iceberg,you would realise they all have 50%+ winning percentage. Plus: there are multiple rounds this summer when I tried winning trophies with all of them. So accusations of throwing are false, because i wouldn't be top 28 with multiple accounts each rounds if i were throwing.
@Sims Who else were abc in my games? And why did PhyZix get unbanned if he was known for being abc? These are main questions. Plus: if abc was there with multiple accounts, how were I supposed to try and dodge him when i didn't know any? Even if I tried dodging, i would probably still end up with 1 or 2 abc alts in games, as i don't know them. Or I would just end up going to sleep as it was very late, i was tired and dodging somebody whole evening isn't the thing i should be supposed to do. Before something similar happens in the future, i would suggest a couple of options, because this can happen for others too: 1) ban all previously known abc alts 2) if you detect that something suspicious is going on in some games, then pause the round for a bit, ban all throw alts and continue it until runners finish their hearts. Because there are some people not from USA there, and i cant spend my whole night dodging throwers and trying to spend my last hearts. If u paused it yesterday when something was suspicious, i would just finish hearts today.
@Sanctify , i wasn't the one who chose to sac the sheriff that game when i was vested, i asked MasterCheif to hit for pr, he said "meg lets kill sheriff Zeebar". I even asked if he is sure. He probably thought that we are hooking bs succesfully. And yes, i said i was leaving before, but wanted to finish with a trophy. That is something i wished all summer. Yet Uni starts soon, i wont have time to play, i dont have passion for this game aswell , especially after the recent events.
I hope that clears things up a bit. I will try to answer other questions that I missed in this forum y-day, as i didnt have time to read it all.
DangeloD is a bad player who constantly tries to OGI and meta his way through games, and whenever he gets near to trophying he starts throwing against other runners on his other accounts (Iceberg, ObviousThing, maybe theres another one). Seems like he's resorting to cheating with banned users due to his constant failures despite his previous use of unethical and illegal (per epicmafia.com's rules) ways.
abc is pretty dumb. He got unbanned after so much hard work and he ruined it again by cheating. He seems to be pretty noob. Looks like he can't win a game without cheating. I have never seen him playing without cheating.
If ABC used proxies, he would make an account that wouldn't be found and he could start over on the website like a new player. So no, he doesn't use proxies. Besides he probably has more accounts than there are proxies on the web.
@gerryoat/hedger didn't read the whole conversation in forums, but i couldn't dodge abc , even if i knew he is in my games. Because I came back home yesterday late - about 23:00 and saw that it's a last day of round, because poser clinched 2k score, so I had to play my 8 hearts before sleeping. If PhyZix was actually really abc, I couldn't dodge him, because I was the only one hosting games at that moment, games were filling very slowly(probably because most of people spent their yellow hearts earlier) and i had to rush 8 games quite quick.
I have a question though, as this investigation is becoming more and more suspicious to me: Abc uses proxy right? Im wondering what evidence do mods then have that abc played in my games yesterday? TheNemesis seemed as abc alt for his picture, but has none reports on him for dodging ban and also claimed to be not abc. Who else were "abc"? If PhyZix was abc, then why did he suddenly get unbanned?
