Just make it possible to play yellow heart games with only 5k or even 10k score. Gamethrow alts usually never earn more than 10k score. Making this a rule would stop gamethrow alts in competetive and then we would see who are the most skilled players
@beloved, I understand completely what you mean ... But if someone realizes he is being thrown for and continues to encourage it then he's just as guilty.
then he shouldnt be allowed to trophy + should get a vio
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i was mostly only responding to a post i remember lilin making last night. still tho, probably wouldn't be hard for abc to make it subtle enough, only really to be noticed when he wants it to or someone's actually looking for cheating. i'm just sayin'
And again: "if you find it suspicious, dont play with them". I have just typed the whole letter why this wasn't possible. And no, i dont think you reviewed the games because we didn't automatically trust each other as PR's . When i rolled cop and he was sheriff, i got guilty on Slay, the nilla, so i was uncced and it was too easy for him to shoot Slay. There wasn't any trust involved in this, but a pure luck and easy cc win. In the other game things were similar when we both rolled PR's. I think i was sheriff and shot nilla mafia, maybe because abc guiltied him, or i just shot him day1, cant remember it now. But these 2 games are examples of luck(good cop report) and skill,because PhySix lynched all the rest mafias. How is this cheating ? And no, i dont think this is worth a disqualification just for one game when abc(or PhySix) rolled blacksmith. Yes, he threw that game, because he lead a lynch on my cop cc. even if i towntold hard, the lynch on cc went just too quick. But is this a big problem? Just refund this game then and let me replay it
but its avoidable. Dangelo did not avoid it. Dangelo full on stated he acknowledged he was throwing for him and then goes into the next game telling him how many more wins he needs and to carry him. He encouraged it and allowed it to happen.
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what u guys think of making it harder to join the comp? like some system where u need to get a number of users to vouch for u or something. might spare a few people getting banned anyway
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abc does actually stalk people's games trying to get them cheating vios ftr (or so he's told me). dude is anarchy incarnate
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I think the problem here is that the two of you rolled useful PRs together in a good amount of the last 6 games you played and automatically trusted each other, which makes it very close to town-autowin. Had that not been the circumstance and had he not been so obviously playing to your win condition I might be tempted to believe your defense, but the deal is that you didn't find it suspicious that someone was playing so clearly to make you win and you continued to play games with that person even after that person was banned. I think that this alone warrants disqualification from a trophy, but that you should not be banned or receive a violation from it.
@MapReduce I didnt cheat. If i were cheating, i would play all 8 yesterday's game or even more games this round with abc. I didn't even know his alts. Once again, even if i knew that he is abc, i couldn't dodge him, read my post on previous page before accusing me of things i didnt do.
Im curious about one more point: even if i knew that abc is gamethrowing in my games, what could I do besides dodging him? If i asked to stop a round until tomorrow, even if moderators would do this, i basically couldnt be able to spend my hearts today as people all around are with 0-2 yellow hs left and games wouldnt fill. Lets say i dodged him whole night and didnt go to sleep. 2 possible outcomes: 1) games wouldnt even fill as there werent enough people with yellow hearts left, most of them have spent their hearts already. 2) i might success in hosting smaller setups, but then again: who knows if abc wouldn't join them? I dont know any of abc alt and im never sure who plays with me. I cant dodge all unknown players, i have played games with too many unknown players this round. Most of them know my name, my alts, even when i've never ever heard about them.
So then naturally i have a question: if i receive one or more refunds, how am i able to fill the games today? How am i guaranteed that abc wont join them? Or should i ask moderators to join my games and play with me the refunds, so the games would fill? You know, even if you gave me a full list of abc alts, i still might not be able to dodge him because i have limited time to spend the hearts and limited ammount of people with hearts left. So this is KIND of hilarious. So i feel like being honest again: How about i just receive the trophy that I think i deserved with quite strong play the whole round and we end this absurd?
