prove you know your stuff, post your definition of meta abuse and how to do it ITT
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giving full-scale cheating for any of those three is remarkably harsh, even for me. i mentioned the third one because i did that one time, realized my mistake, then immediately deleted it. but, because riot's a loser manchild, he screencapped it and tried to get me a vio for it. i for one don't think it's cheating but that's just imho.
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RIP
deletedover 9 years
that first one is a nonstarter, that second one is bribery (let's call it bribery please), and that third one is what most cheating is. there's no need for the ogi rule, which is rendered into absolute ridiculousness by dumbass mods all the time
Also I was enjoying idioteque's posts but whatever
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OGI actually exists for stuff like "i'm going to report you if you don't lynch my FOS", "stop slowrolling or i'll neg you", "he posted on the forums about how bad town is so he's probably mafia and not miller"
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this is such a dumb little thing to have that whole dumb monstrosity of a rule for
(leaving aside that it's easily manipulable and so rightly fair game)
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i think it's ultimately a good thing that it's called "cheating" and not "meta abuse" 0=)
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dave, please, ur breaking my heart here dude
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Most of the 'meta-abuse' bans/trophy bans handed out have been cases where mods have just overstepped their boundaries on circumstantial evidence.
Given we had possibly two cases of meta-abuse bans/trophy removals in 3 years (rawrfx and FrancoisK) and then suddenly they became commonplace.
no, he was specifically describing honest (unfair and illegal) meta.
deletedover 9 years
but u just agreed with pranay's rules there only a while ago, which stated that such things were ogi
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if you honeslty think definitions of meta abuse matter in the near future when lucid is trying to slowly but surely trying to emphasize literally every other part of the site that is noncomp then idk wat 2 tell u lol
it matters a lot, actually, considering it can be the decider between who gets barred from enjoying java mafia and who doesn't
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by knowing their playstyle and announcing it. enforcing ogi against that forces players to lie about their suspicions, which literally breeds mafia tells of the town alignment. the ogi rule is broken as f*ck. also, why the f*ck not just let people state that someone is breaking a rule. it doesn't add any significant or unfair pressure or anything like that.
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i dunno, i don't really care that much about arguing semantics since this thread is a veiled "everyone is wrong about everything but me" thread
then that's not a read. it's just throwing. how is meta involved
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when u throw for friends, dave-kun. look at hedger/rawr. they played like 21 games with each other and never read each other but always assumed the other was town.
