Epicmafia

A little idea.

over 9 years

So basically, one huge issue this site has is simplicity for newer players. Upon joining an unranked game, which new players are forced to do, you face a couple different situations, all basically bad. You either join a game with a -ton of random roles that is a clusterfuck and scares the player away. Or you might join a game with a bunch of veterans who do stuff without an explanation which just confuses the new player, and likely drives them away. Or you join an unranked game with a bunch of other noobs who have no clue what they're doing and screw it up. In all situations, new players seem to have a tough road ahead of them. It's only the players who are smart and patient enough to learn about the site that will actually end up staying.

So, my proposal is this: Have a beginner lobby, where players are automatically sent to upon joining the site. There they can join one of the couple allowed setups (simple ones) and join a game. Simultaneously, the game will also have a couple of slots for veterans. Essentially, veterans with over 100 games played, may join the beginner lobby and join games. They can join the game, help the new players understand it, and so on. What do the veterans gain from it? Every 25 beginner games a veteran helps out in, they get 1 token (something along those lines)

This whole system encourages veterans to help out, helps new players understand the site, and I think it'd work. I want harsh critique. kThxBye

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jbomber732

over 9 years

Python says

This is actually a good idea, I've tried to get friends to play before, we try sandbox so I'm not ruining games in training lobby, I guess main lobby now, and they're confused as hell and have no idea what's going on and quickly lose interest in ever playing on the site.

That's why I decided to post this. I tried introducing the site to some friends, and they found it too complicated or boring for reasons I stated in the OP.

deletedover 9 years

Troll says

2015

still no profile pets

This should be top priority

Edark

over 9 years

never forget DLYV all day everyday in bronze lobby

Edark

over 9 years

bring back gold lobby nerds

deletedover 9 years

2015

still no profile pets

deletedover 9 years

I can't believe this issue hasn't been solved since like the beginning of time on this site. I just don't think it's gonna happen lol

deletedover 9 years

Sims says

Piney says

Don't forget a lot of veterans are actually rude as heeeeck and ridicule the newer players for being noobs. Yeah, I'm really gonna want to stay and play a game with a bunch of complacent snobs who don't care about anyone other than themselves and their inflated egos.

it's shocking that people still feel like this

People only feel this because the issue was never resolved, because it CAN'T be.

deletedover 9 years

Yeah don't do this thing.

peach

over 9 years

a cute little idea. a good small thought . +1

Togepi

over 9 years

Thanks for fighting the good fight, Vitacon.

deletedover 9 years

Vitacon says

Ah yes, you're losing patience with the people who haven't played as many games. In other words: you, an old player, get upset at a new player for being new. That sounds exactly like the sort of mentality I described.

tbh that's just human nature though, and most human beings are like that

Shamzy

over 9 years

We're just going back and forth here... is it that hard to understand what I'm saying? You made this statement before and I explained it. Now you're saying the same statement again like I haven't explained where I'm coming from

vilden

over 9 years

no i'm completely indifferent seeing who my team is and say the same thing i'd always say (i.e. the game plan)

Shamzy

over 9 years

It's not events that I remember. I'm sorry but I don't take time remembering the names of new players that I help in mafia nights. I'm just saying what I usually do when I'm mafia. If I have over 1000 games on this account then I'm pretty sure I would remember how I am as mafia

deletedover 9 years

Ah yes, you're losing patience with the people who haven't played as many games. In other words: you, an old player, get upset at a new player for being new. That sounds exactly like the sort of mentality I described.

vilden

over 9 years

when you've played so many games you quickly lose patience. that's all it is

deletedover 9 years

Clearly your recollection of these events are on-point so I don't expect you to have any issues typing it from memory.

vilden

over 9 years

actually shamzy doesn't need to give examples because there is no "i'm better than you" mentality like you even describe. it's just conjecture

Shamzy

over 9 years

I've checked my recent games and they're with mafia that already know what they're doing. You'd have to check further back, and I can't.

deletedover 9 years

Please give an example for the class.

Shamzy

over 9 years

They ask.. "who should I hook" ... Then I'd say hook this person and tell them its random since its the first night. Most of my games with new players are not lost because they dont "understand" it... its because they do stupid sh*t that not even they can explain themselves. This is all being ignored and I'm being told I'm basically a jerk for reacting to it. Nothing will improve like this.

Togepi

over 9 years

Devante says

i think the mentor system could do a bit more than it's doing now, unfortunately i became a mentor when i have almost no free time, so i can't find out if i was right or wrong all along.

I agree but not sure how it would be revitalized. Not sure if it's something I should even give an opinion on since I'm not a mentor so.

deletedover 9 years

telling someone to do x isn't really teaching them anything. and it could explain why they might not hook the pr role they're suppose to hook on say night 2. because they don't really understand the role.

deletedover 9 years

That's "burn the witch" logic. That has nothing to do with new players.

Shamzy

over 9 years

I can't check my past games but its not hard to find a mafia game where I said these things... so like you said how about we all cut the sh*t and stop acting like everyone thats supporting this is a monster that rages at new players. We're doing this because we think its beneficial for them.