Hi. Recently, I've felt that our current rules do not fit the current meta and playerbase, and are outdated in many aspects. I've been thinking about rewriting them in full, but I figured that a more open approach would allow for everyone to be more content if such a thing happened. I want to use this thread to talk about discrepancies in the system and how to appropriately fix or address them. I believe that the rules are not accessible enough based on website design alone and how they are handled. This leads to a lot of complaints that could be thinned down if people came together and defined the rules in such a way that can make everyone (mostly) happy. I want to use this thread as a placeholder and for people to be critical as much as they please with aspects of the report system also, and how we as a team could possibly improve it or get lucid to notice that it is in need of an overhaul. It's a very daunting task, but I want to believe that the people who spend their time in the complaints section, constantly riding on mods or problems with the site, finally will put their money with their mouth is.
The goal of this thread is to hopefully allow new and old users thoroughly understand the rules more clearly so the amount of reports diminishes and people have a more enjoyable experience.
deletedover 9 years
Think of it as a rule when you have users like Betrayal making troll topics that are highly offensive and shouldn't even be allowed to be made. Moderators don't have the proper authority to delete such topics because users will just turn to the report system and say 'hey there isn't a violation for this unfair mods etc.'
deletedover 9 years
I think this or rule will end up terrible if written & allowed like that basically it's saying that a mod can give you something if they can't find one to give u and want to give you one. I think if you're going to put a violation like that it needs to at least be approved by 2 moderators and the admin or something like that. It definitely should not be every single mod can just give out something at their own discretion
deletedover 9 years
Seems like a buffed up note
deletedover 9 years
That's actually the point. It's not really a violation and is instead used when a moderator feels they need to intervene.
also, make grs more harsher, to prevent kids like me from taking advantage of it
deletedover 9 years
i don't know what hostility or toxicity you guys are talking about, i've played a few comp games this round and i don't see it at all
deletedover 9 years
Mock-up draft of Moderator Discretion
Moderator Discretion This rule is a placeholder used for the moderators to enforce certain actions pertaining to the community, such as forums, lobby walls, or report comments. Moderator Discretion is not a violation in itself, rather it is to be used when a Moderator feels they need to take precautionary action towards a user, including suspending/banning a user, or deleting a comment they have made. This violation will mostly be used on a community-related only basis.
i think the toxicity is pretty relevant. it's not even comp vs non-comp, it's even within red/unranked.
deletedover 9 years
Yeah, but I'm saying there are more important things that are wrong with this site
deletedover 9 years
Don't worry I also have novels and and music
deletedover 9 years
please don't spend all of it thinking about epicmafia
deletedover 9 years
I will think more later. I have 16 hours worth of road trip in the next two days
deletedover 9 years
More along the lines of getting people to understand note are not violation, mods included. The best thing may not even be to just directly say it, but maybe a more elaborate description about the function of notes.
yes but that's not really what this thread is about. like, at all.
deletedover 9 years
What kind of mod is not allowed to moderate? Admins would be given a better chance to prove themselves as good admins as they would watch over the decisions of the moderators when it comes to choices that involve the forums if we're speaking in this context. That's initially what is supposed to happen. I also dislike the fact that moderators cannot give violations themselves, and have to wait on for someone else to report it. That's completely backwards as to how it should work. Mods are the ones who should be enforcing rules in the first place, not asking the community to report them.
deletedover 9 years
well, preface "moderator discretion" with a sort of ad hoc council meeting where mods vote either in favor of or against the proposed course of action
ok but then you actually would need to start being picky about who gets moderated.
deletedover 9 years
If people want to get technical we could very well create a rule defined as Moderator Discretion, and give it a bunch of context when the rule applies and when is to be used. I don't really want to have to do something like that as I feel it would just come down to the rule saying "When a moderator actually does what he's supposed to be doing, which is moderating the website."
deletedover 9 years
I just think the first thing that needs to be changed in Epicmafia is the utter hostility to newer players. I constantly find myself playing unranked games purely just to help the newer players who get bullied by the more experienced players. Someone isn't dumb if they vote you purely just because they don't understand the mechanics, they're just inexperienced. Even the attitude held by vets on this site is disgusting, and it makes the whole website a toxic mess of inferiority vs self proclaimed superiority. It actually makes it horrible to play, and I never used to get aggressive or abusive in games, and it is starting to just become the norm if you want any chance at holding your own in competitive. It just kinda sucks.
