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Reset trophies, reset ELO, reset points, reset all mentors, start competition from Round 1. Custom Lobby trophies to no longer count towards HOF.

Can we get a vote on this?

"No" has -5 because Anna trolled it.

Full reset?
65
Yes
41
No
deletedover 9 years
Invest literally 100 dollars a month in advertising and most of these problems go away. I'd even donate.
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ScubaSteve says


Harrold says

Just a thought, but maybe the competition is too long? Whichever round it is, people usually gravitate towards one setup, and that gets played to death until someone has accumulated 2,000 points. That means that people are playing the same setup for a lot of games. If a setup pops up that people aren't happy with, but will play anyway, then they'll grow tired of comp.

Maybe shorten the competition length?


Also a reasonable idea, honestly. The main reason why I've never run more than once is because I didn't want to lose out on a trophy because a couple idiots decided to cheat for theirs and get away with it. I would probably feel slightly better about taking that risk if I didn't have to dedicate 30-something hours over the course of 9 or 10 days to run.


Yeah man, I've only ever tried to trophy once and I came fourth. By the end of the run I was mentally drained and resented having to play my hearts. I was pretty bored of the setup, but I was also sick of having to dedicate so much of my time to it. Maybe something to consider.
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maybe make the competitions mean more. have them once a month for prizes like gift cards and tokens.
deletedover 9 years
I actually have a good idea

what if we ban MikeyRu and Maymay from competitive games, and only allow them to play FP, after a week of FP with Mikeyru there's no way in hell they continue to play it.

Then we'll go advertising a MikeyRu free zone in orange heart games, this plan is literally fool-proof
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Harrold says

Just a thought, but maybe the competition is too long? Whichever round it is, people usually gravitate towards one setup, and that gets played to death until someone has accumulated 2,000 points. That means that people are playing the same setup for a lot of games. If a setup pops up that people aren't happy with, but will play anyway, then they'll grow tired of comp.

Maybe shorten the competition length?


Also a reasonable idea, honestly. The main reason why I've never run more than once is because I didn't want to lose out on a trophy because a couple idiots decided to cheat for theirs and get away with it. I would probably feel slightly better about taking that risk if I didn't have to dedicate 30-something hours over the course of 9 or 10 days to run.
deletedover 9 years
Either that, or perhaps you could keep all 6 selected setups, but make 2 available per day.
over 9 years
I would be ok with a reset if all vio's + inactive accounts are wiped too.
deletedover 9 years
Just a thought, but maybe the competition is too long? Whichever round it is, people usually gravitate towards one setup, and that gets played to death until someone has accumulated 2,000 points. That means that people are playing the same setup for a lot of games. If a setup pops up that people aren't happy with, but will play anyway, then they'll grow tired of comp.

Maybe shorten the competition length?
over 9 years
I can't quote anymore...

@Devante I used to play classic because it filled at the beginning but it bored me. Then I played reverse because it filled and I wanted achievements then I played FP because it filled and I wanted achievements. Conclusion: Achievements ruined my mind lmao.

I decided to play competitive thus I played new setups and there I am. I think it's only about that, you wanna improve and challenge yourself or not. People are afraid of being bad because there's a classification so they think people will care about their level and to help that, people like Zovea shouldn't be allowed to play because they are just bored by these kind of players who give no chance to improve.
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Sims says

honestly, things don't even seem to bad. most of the people on the leaderboard last round are newer players


Things are bad in the sense that there's about as many Comp games being played each round as there were before the merger.
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Hm. We could double the point limit to reach in order to end each round, and make every single gold heart be an x2 setup.

... I'm pretty sure something like this was done way way back, where red hearts only counted for half as many points as competitive hearts. I don't remember exactly how well that worked though.
over 9 years
honestly, things don't even seem to bad. most of the people on the leaderboard last round are newer players
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Devante says

Fancy pants and classic mafia isn't the problem, because all of you (SuperNova, Zovea and all the FP haters) started off playing either fancy pants or classic mafia when you started on this website. Something or someone made you make the transition to competition, now we need the newer players to make the transition.

Quite frankly idc if D3x whatever, packidy and Trump want to play Fancy Pants & report noobs for not softing cop on day 1 until they grow old but there's no way that we shouldn't be able to get others to make a transition to comp or even other red heart setups


I played DLYG for ages, but always had my eye on the Competitive Lobby. It was a bit of a mystery for me. I wanted to see what kind of players were there, how many games were running etc. I tryharded quite a lot when I first started playing in comp and was pretty quick to learn. I got bored of EM then and didn't log in for a while until Fruitoftheloom OPI'd my IRL best friend to attack Katie. At that point, I defended my friend on the forums and got sucked in to the forums. It's been a lot harder to get away from this website from that point.

Ultimately, what I'm trying to say is that I think competitive games themselves aren't enough to keep people interested. The drama and all that nonsense was kinda decisive in keeping me interested.

Obviously this won't be the same for everyone as you still enjoy playing comp.
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i remember way back in the day, red heart games gave half points. i also remember when points paid out depending on what role you were.
over 9 years
I didn't troll it because my vote is actually worth 50 so....
over 9 years
Actually we can do the opposite to x2 setups and give half points to these kind of setups. So obviously they can still play these setups and point farm but it would be more effective than only 2 setups with double points. They could be bored to see "This is a bad setup so you only earn half of your points"
deletedover 9 years
i thought talking about blacklisting fancy pants was what we said we wouldn't do when training lobby was nice enough to let us move into their lobby?
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ScubaSteve says


Harrold says

Is there any way you can get a rotation on blacklisted setups, just like the rotation on x2 setups? I mean, at least if people want to point farm in red hearts, they could do it with a different setup each week. It might encourage people to move on.


You mean like what we do in between rounds with setups like Gallis Hunter and Minesweeper, only instead of just in between rounds, we rotate them at roughly the same rate as we rotate the x2 setups?


Something like that. It's a pretty tenuous suggestion.
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Harrold says

Is there any way you can get a rotation on blacklisted setups, just like the rotation on x2 setups? I mean, at least if people want to point farm in red hearts, they could do it with a different setup each week. It might encourage people to move on.


You mean like what we do in between rounds with setups like Gallis Hunter and Minesweeper, only instead of just in between rounds, we rotate them at roughly the same rate as we rotate the x2 setups?
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Fancy pants and classic mafia isn't the problem, because all of you (SuperNova, Zovea and all the FP haters) started off playing either fancy pants or classic mafia when you started on this website. Something or someone made you make the transition to competition, now we need the newer players to make the transition.

Quite frankly idc if D3x whatever, packidy and Trump want to play Fancy Pants & report noobs for not softing cop on day 1 until they grow old but there's no way that we shouldn't be able to get others to make a transition to comp or even other red heart setups
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Is there any way you can get a rotation on blacklisted setups, just like the rotation on x2 setups? I mean, at least if people want to point farm in red hearts, they could do it with a different setup each week. It might encourage people to move on.
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SuperNova says

ScubaSteve, obviously you can fix it whether you allow only few setups in red hearts. You don't blacklist setups, you just allow them like you'd do in competitive but these setups would be forever such as jan 2.0, VDLI etc. There will be about 20-30 setups that could be played in red hearts and nothing else. So people who want to have many points would be forced to play these setups.


Which is fine, but if new players want to learn how to actually play mafia online in a similar fashion to what they're probably already familiar with, not allowing people to play those setups ranked would probably completely discourage anyone to play anything other than unranked games.

With that being said, unranked games are also unmoderated. Suppose a new player comes along without any idea of what's going on and lands in an unranked Classic Mafia table that gets trolled to absolute oblivion. If that were me, I'd have absolutely no intent of coming back and learning how to play the setups where stuff like that doesn't happen.
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ive moved on from the competition to trolling casual unranked games. i've adapted like an old animal.
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ScubaSteve says

Again, if things stay exactly how they are currently, the only way I can see stacked competitive games ever happening again is to make a custom lobby and individually recruit a few dozen people to compete there.


I've been trying to get a hold of bumpers to do just that. But I mean, that's not really going to solve anything. I seriously think a mentor/mentee competition would be a great idea for getting a better quality of competition. It's all explained in the other thread if you missed it.
over 9 years
literally just befriend every player and convince them personally to play comp with you