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Calling it Quits

over 9 years

Alright people of Epicmafia. It's been a long time since I've made a serious macro-thread outlining my thoughts. I've really mellowed out about epicmafia since departing as admin, only to get super mad when talking about setups that I don't like, because nothing makes me more upset than bad setups. Either way, this is my first serious thread of 2015. Remember 2014? Good times. In the words of a recently banned user "Twas a blast."

I haven't been on the site all that much recently, at least not much since Vancy stepped down. Well, at least not in the sense of being involved in the game of policy and shady dealings that goes on behind the scenes. However, one thing I've noticed though is that although the competition still puts up pretty solid numbers, there seems to be a general malaise spread throughout the community. I can't help but feel the site is spiraling downhill. Just looking through the past 10 rounds, over half of them had some sort of mega cheating investigation, trophy winners who got thrown for, or outright cheating. It's kind of shocking that anyone bothers to run anymore when there is such a high volume of cheating, especially when trophies are valued at less than the dollar during the 2008 crash. It just seems kinda silly. There's so much effort that goes into the moderation of gold heart games to keep them legitimate, while there is a ton of effort poured into making them illegitimate as well. All for what, though?

So I really, seriously want to pose this question: Do you think it's time for the competition to stop?

Now before you throw Molotov cocktails at your computer screen, just hear me out. Let's go on a journey together.

Imagine a world on epicmafia without a competition. Mods would last longer since they wouldn't get burned out from long investigations. No one could troll rounds, since there are no rounds to troll. Maybe the comp lobby could see a revival, for those who are into that sort of lobby gentrification. Not to mention, cheaters would have no reason to cheat - there's no "trophy" to be gained from cheating in red hearts, unless you just like upsetting people. Imagine a world where every game of mafia is casual mafia, you can play any setup you want at any time, without having to rely on some douchecanoe to comp something playable, and double point Jan becomes the stage that all mafia players wish to be stars on? This is a world I think we should live in. I would know, I have sources.

I know this is pretty radical, but I have a solution for those of you who still really like comp on the site.

We could replace the competition with chess: https://epicmafia.com/game/4102695?password=46139b0b16d7696468a818ef81ab82a93691f7d5

Honestly, tbh, I'm being honest.
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Free Gallis Hunter
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Kill Comp
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Nuke the forums instead
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bwaaa bwaaa bwaaaa
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thanks for looking out for the little guy
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Don't Kill Comp
over 9 years
Don't remove my trophies please. :'( But I agree with the competition once in a month, with small gifts... Like MafiaGod does. But 1500 points aren't enough to play comp because if you're a main you don't know much about mechanics and you're likely a FP player, and if it's an alt you should focus on your main in try harder on it. 3000 points would be better but it would be even better if the two days before the round starts we can only play comped setups on Red hearts so people have to play this.
over 9 years

Devante says

Reset all trophies, including custom lobby trophies.

Make competitions once a month, and have a persons trophy show in games next to their name like they used to

& also give the trophy winners some kind of prize for winning like Arcbell did, tokens & or a custom lobby emote


Do this, but instead of a once a month comp, how about a ladder type thing?
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My favorite emote is the ebabe one dan made
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I think giving trophy winners a sick custom emote would be cool
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i'm a very good idea haver, i just keep my good ideas to myself most of the time and sometimes when i'm feeling generous i'll share them with the rest
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mist says

Calling it Quits

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Calling it Quits
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Devante when did you suddenly get good ideas?
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Devante says

Reset all trophies, including custom lobby trophies.

Make competitions once a month, and have a persons trophy show in games next to their name like they used to

& also give the trophy winners some kind of prize for winning like Arcbell did, tokens & or a custom lobby emote


this. This would be for the best. Wait a few rounds though, so giga can get his 50th bronze or whatever
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While I'm spitting out good ideas, you could have mini-competitions in a custom lobby or something, but these competitions would only be for mentees and they would be while the main competition is on hold. Then you could revamp the mentor program which is very doable, no one wants to put the effort into it. And give good players incentive to mentor by giving them something like a "Mentor of the month" and mentee of the month to whoever wins that competition.
This comp would be shorter than the regular one of course, it would start a week before the next month and have a 1000 point winner.

Holy crap in a genius
over 9 years
Man that'd be kinda cool
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Reset all trophies, including custom lobby trophies.

Make competitions once a month, and have a persons trophy show in games next to their name like they used to

& also give the trophy winners some kind of prize for winning like Arcbell did, tokens & or a custom lobby emote
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Not sure what this would accomplish short of killing the little initiative that's left for people to still use the site. The real problem isn't really w/r/t competitions it's just that most players aren't willing to put in the effort to really make a game good.
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Test post
over 9 years
Thokk win this round. Thokk need competition to feed on the blood and bones of n00bs.
over 9 years
So who's comping gallis hunter this round :3
over 9 years

Triumphant says

I played a red heart game of c-14 today and claimed cop and then tracker as ninja and won both ccs. I said that the icons looked really similar. Look at how bad you guys made it!


The real tracker claimed a n1 report.
over 9 years

UniversalStudios says


SuperNova says

Winrates are not hard to reach when you play FP. Golden hearts are not easy to fill that's why they allow some (really) bad players to play...


Including yourself.


I'm sorry UniversalStudios, you know that i have nothing but respect for you, but i'll have to disagree with you. Nova is a really great player and thanks to him and soda i got 2 conescutive rounds to 5th place. I learned a lot of things from both of them and Nova deserved his trophy this round.
over 9 years
this day was inevitable. EM's competitions were always farcical
over 9 years
Why are you so obsessed with me? Do you feel better when you say I'm bad? Poor guy...
over 9 years
Remember having to have your reports on point? Those were the days.
over 9 years

SuperNova says

Winrates are not hard to reach when you play FP. Golden hearts are not easy to fill that's why they allow some (really) bad players to play...


Including yourself.
over 9 years
Winrates are not hard to reach when you play FP. Golden hearts are not easy to fill that's why they allow some (really) bad players to play...
over 9 years

UniversalStudios says

I remember what this site was like before training and pointfarming.


Fun as f***.

I played a red heart game with a tracker yesterday, and when I claimed tracker with a guilty report, my CC claimed the report visited someone else, and the reported player confirmed it.

No one in the game could see what was wrong with blindly trusting a pair of players who were confirmed only by reports in their own interest.
over 9 years
Arbitrary gates like points and win rate should be removed in favor of MODS DOING THEIR JOB.