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Round 301 Discussion

over 9 years

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over 9 years
Look up the word "gimmick".
over 9 years
i mean it makes me mad too, dlyg is one of my favorite setups but it's just so much trouble
over 9 years

jana says

last time a DLYV variant was comped there were a bunch of people double-yak killing to unrank the game because they didn't want to be mafia.


And all of the mods powers were contained in the life of the person they were doing this too so nothing happened to them.

Also DLYV isn't a competitive setup but that doesn't mean there isn't a way to make a yak setup. I'll be working on making one once I come back from work.
over 9 years
yes because seanmanx and petermh will definitely stop doing things like that if we warn them and give vios...

also there was a lot of debate on playing to current win cons vs future ones and what counted as gamethrowing
deletedover 9 years
Your gimmick's getting old Zovea.
over 9 years

jana says

last time a DLYV variant was comped there were a bunch of people double-yak killing to unrank the game because they didn't want to be mafia.


if the mods gave them the GT vios they deserved and clarified it on an announcement it would have stopped happening fast.
over 9 years
wish i could run this round but finals
over 9 years
last time a DLYV variant was comped there were a bunch of people double-yak killing to unrank the game because they didn't want to be mafia.
over 9 years
i have been educating mods since the first time i read the rules XD
over 9 years
There's no point in explaining this to the mods, they either know and don't care, or are too dumb/slow to realize they're wrong.
over 9 years
it would only be an "exploit" if they found a loop-hole... like when doc could save yak. there are no loopholes now. its cheating to know that you will be yakked because they are your friend and intend to play to your win... or gamethrowing to attempt to lose n1
over 9 years
DLYV is not a competitive setup.
over 9 years
You know what's better than moderating? Denying aspects of the site from the community so you don't have to moderate it.
over 9 years
Lmao we can't have yak setups because the mods are incapable of moding exploiters on a case by case basis.
over 9 years
so both "exploits" are explicitly against the rules. you shouldn't ban a setup from comp just because people are capable of cheating and game-throwing. every setup has the potential for those rules being broken.
over 9 years

mist says


as I'm aware it's that as well as mafia having a way to unrank the game if they don't want to be the yakuzas.


that part of it can easily be considered gamethrowing. to do that, both yaks have to yak the same person and kill them so the game ends n1 and is too short to be a ranked game... so they are playing to lose. also, they risk doc saving the yak target for a ranked game that is autolose
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UniversalStudios says

Leave to a simpleton like mist to call TEO "complicated".


well that was uncalled for. I love TEO but compared to one of the basic's that's totally complicated. i'm not saying it's difficult to learn i'm just saying newer players can be intimidated by a multi setup with lots of PR's when they have something like Basic Logic/Basic Variant as an alternative. jeeeeeze.


Duke says


mist says

bell just put TEO up for ya. yak setups aren't being comped right now because of exploit abuse as i understand it. if you have another pick let us know~


exploit abuse? you mean throwing for mafia in hopes you get yakked? with doc not being able to save yak anymore, you cant pull the old "lynched the yakked, yak-kill, most of town wins as mafia" strat. so you cant really ensure that you will win by scumsiding, because game will end with only 2 people yakked no matter what. if people meta-abuse yak joints with friends, its called cheating... because they are playing for each others win con.



as I'm aware it's that as well as mafia having a way to unrank the game if they don't want to be the yakuzas.
over 9 years

mist says

bell just put TEO up for ya. yak setups aren't being comped right now because of exploit abuse as i understand it. if you have another pick let us know~


exploit abuse? you mean throwing for mafia in hopes you get yakked? with doc not being able to save yak anymore, you cant pull the old "lynched the yakked, yak-kill, most of town wins as mafia" strat. so you cant really ensure that you will win by scumsiding, because game will end with only 2 people yakked no matter what. if people meta-abuse yak joints with friends, its called cheating... because they are playing for each others win.
over 9 years
Leave to a simpleton like mist to call TEO "complicated".
deletedover 9 years
TEO is a great setup but BV, BL, and VLDI are all comped in the same round. Unless some runners really insist on playing on it and push to fill tables, I expect it to get drown out by people less willing to try a complicated setup like that.
over 9 years
TEO will suck because you guys play in way that makes it near impossible to get all of the PR's to the next day.
over 9 years
TEO
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over 9 years
Reverse maf
deletedover 9 years
bell just put TEO up for ya. yak setups aren't being comped right now because of exploit abuse as i understand it. if you have another pick let us know~