emiliewu2 sent a message to BearGuru 4h 32m ago
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Hey BearGuru. I know you think that "Ruse" is a cheating ring - and I don't want to argue with you :). But the truth is, we all go to the same school, and we like playing together because we all love Mafia and we play it at school sometimes, so we join games together for fun sometimes. However, just because we made a 'family' for fun, it doesn't mean we are a cheating ring. We don't cheat, because, like you, we think it is ripping other people off - especially during comp and ranked games. I, personally, am quite a horrible player, so I have a hard time finding mafia and hammering correctly. However, I am trying to improve with experience, and do not cheat in any way. Just letting you know, that whatever you think about us cheating, it is misplaced.
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Snowflake's was basically commenting on the bin, I forwarded that to mist and polo.

Also if any of you were a noavi. You would be banned by now.

soccer2002 sent a message to BearGuru 5h 8m ago
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dude are u crazy or not u werent in any of my games and if u read it properly half of it wouldnt make sense
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it's a site to play with friends. We have seen many cheaters though, who plead exactly the same and were later exposed. This is why people are skeptical. It is good to be alert. I'm not saying that you guys cheated or something. Neither am I saying that you guys are clear. But I would definitely give benefit of doubt to you guys because there is only circumstantial evidence, and most of all, even of you guys did something wrong , I'm sure you won't do it again. I can get that from your statements. Just make sure you guys play gold hearts without doing these things accused of in the pastBin. we have seen many people help friends just for points. This is why we are cautious. Bear was not wrong in making this bin as if this continued till end of round you guys would be suspended without consideration. Mods won't give benefit of doubt if 35 games were played like this. So just be glad that you guys were grilled by bear and soda and exonerated slash excused.

So I have received pms from 3 of the people. Soccer sent me one, Emilie wu another, and snowflake sent me a third. I will post them here to hear your thoughts.

nope im superman ive won many games w/o my friends in it

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blacksnakemoan says

I would like to take this moment to confess that I've been running a cheating ring with Silhouette, Glacial and some guy called Soda with a random number after his name.

We also like to steal lollipops from children and once the other three guys(not me) on a duck at the park.

Why wasn't I invited? I love cheating rings!

Will hook you up bruv. We're trying to lure Zhuorb and Pranay, but I think they have their own thing going on

Imhereandyournot says

but we also can recognise when someone is lying is that really a bad thing?

I think Silhouette's point is that you only seem able to do this when you're all in a game together. That's certainly my experience of Soccer's play, and yours.

blacksnakemoan says

I would like to take this moment to confess that I've been running a cheating ring with Silhouette, Glacial and some guy called Soda with a random number after his name.

We also like to steal lollipops from children and once the other three guys(not me) on a duck at the park.

Why wasn't I invited? I love cheating rings!

I would like to take this moment to confess that I've been running a cheating ring with Silhouette, Glacial and some guy called Soda with a random number after his name.

We also like to steal lollipops from children and once the other three guys(not me) on a duck at the park.

yehet21: 68% win rate town 40% win rate mafia. and dats all u need to ban a man

As you can see I'm done fighting you guys I'm 80% sure you guys are a legit group of friends who want to have fun, so have fun. Just the turn-out of everything looked a bit fishy at first.

Haha but fo real doe, for my money i'd say these guys are cheating

Silhouette, let me get this straight, there is no game where there is proof that we ghosted, no games where we cheated and yes I admit that we do meta sometimes and I think that it may be unfair to have 5 players metaing in comp but we also can recognise when someone is lying is that really a bad thing?

I would like an apology for soccer2002 telling me to die because that was pretty hurtful.

I've deleted all my comments on the report AND in your family since they may have come off as a bit harsh.

Just for the record I egged you guys pretty hard and I'm letting you know that I'm Silhouette.

lmao ban these cheters

As said before playing with your friends is alright, it's just when a group of 10 people who don't look familiar (you guys aren't familiar due to being new) are found playing games together and it looks like one person is being thrown for, it looks fishy and I along with anyone else can't be blamed here. The case against you was legitimate. You guys defended yourselves it was also legitimate.

We are just trying to have fun. We, like all of you, believe cheating in Epicmafia is essentially just ripping off everyone else in that game, especially if it is comp or ranked. So I assure you, we do not cheat in any way.

Well be glad you are not around one

ok let me give you a summary

we go to the same school, nicknamed ruse
hence the family called ruse
we are all friends in ruse
imhere found out about the game and told us and the group became bigger
we coordinate times in school to play after school

Yeah I'm fairly sure you're legit now, and I'm really sorry that I grilled you guys REALLY hard but cheating rings are absolutely terrible and I refuse to have them be around.

Is there really something wrong with trying to play a goddamn game without getting flamed or accused of cheating. Its actually funny that you see something wrong with trying to enjoy a game with friends. Epicmafia is about cooperation anyway so isnt it better if players that know each other and their playstyles play together rather than a mess of strangers trolling, flaming and accusing each other. I'm sorry that you think someone else is cheating but logically the game wouldnt even be fun if you cheated, it just feels like you havent even accomplished anything. Some people are even finding the dumbest reasons to blame such as: wow wut a lame name must be a noob and get carried by friends. Can't people just accept that someone is skilled or experienced at the game without this huge amount of salt.

Well here's evidence that I'm not tossing for soccer. https://epicmafia.com/game/4012936/review
I was hammering as cop in mylo and I could have easily hammered a town if I wanted soccer to win as mafia. Not to mention snowflake was also mafia. This just shows that I'm not tossing for my family and merely playing the game to the best of my ability, whilst having fun.