how is everything i do suspicious
so basically if i do something right im automatically cheating?

orcing a 50/50 cc is so bad.... the surrounding circumstance just makes it worse, and the fact that orc was on the cop cc that should have looked like town mechanically speaking.... points to actual cheating. good find skillz

That's most likely luck

Also I just lost a game in comp ;-; pie is getting worse and worse. i should stop comping.

https://epicmafia.com/game/4018467 one of soccer's recent games: (Keep in mind that Emiliewu2 is one of the suspected cheaters, they are in the same family as Soccer.

Soccer is Oracle.

Mattcryo is cop.

Emiliewu2 and throwingthegame are Mafia

D1: Throwingthegame claims cop with a guilty on the REAL COP, and real cop claims with a guilty on throwingthegame after town nls... this happens:

N2: Mafia kill soccer2002, the Oracle, who is on the FAKE COP (throwingthegame) even though Throwingthegame guiltied THE REAL COP BEFORE THE REAL COP EVEN CLAIMS. Throwingthegame becomes naked mafia, and then emiliewu2 dies later after the Real cop checks them.

I noticed, I'll be checking it.

Soccer is currently playing in a game with snowflake

I already caught Imhereandyournot cheating and he got a Note for it, Imhereandyournot is Soccer's friend and also in his family, That is enough evidence to prove that they're cheating. CASE CLOSED.

calling it soccer is cheating on its own

I liked it.

what a terrible OP

the only games that last 40 minutes are the last 5 games of a try-hards run.

prezabama17 says

I don't get why people have to be so stuck up and bad sports. It's just a game, not their job.

It's a game that can run to 40 minutes long sometimes. If you're investing half an hour of your day in a game, wouldn't it be nice to know that everyone has the same stake in it as you? If someone is cheating, they don't have the same interest. They've destroyed the mechanics of the game to swing it their way.

Yeah, it's just a game. But it's not a game when someone cheats. It's just a waste of time.

Snow gave me a pastebin. Idk y she didn't give u 1.

gira? gira?

haven't read the updates yet, but the original pastebin is worse than the case on pranay/shini originally was. its fairly obvious they are meta-abusing at best, but the case needs to be laid out coherently.

ahahaha sorry bear <3 pastebin would have worked lmao

ayyy lmao no one cares, this is a sh!t site anyway.

coulda just made another pastebin~

That was a binch to copy paste because of the 2000 character limit

SO after reviewing all these games, soccer is being totally circlejerked to the top. In only 1 game was he alone, nobody from his family, and in one game, 8 out of the 9 people were in the family. This is most likely cheating, as his win rate with snowflake is quite higher than it should be, the only times that have lost that were in their control was when they were both mafia, and they both played terribly, so a terrible player should not be doing this well. Thank you, and good night.
I admit, I'm a pretty horrendous player. But I don't attempt to let soccer win, I attempt to win myself. Unfortunately, it's not going very well, eh? BUT. WE. DO. NOT. CHEAT. We simply play together for fun, AND WE MOST CERTAINLY DO NOT PLAY FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S WIN CONDITION. Forward this to the mods if you please <3
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https://epicmafia.com/game/4012936

Snowflake and soccer mafia, yehet cop. Yehet investigates both mafia for an easy win for town, maf loses.
no cheats here, she just investigated her friends because why not
https://epicmafia.com/game/4012992

Yehet blue, soccer bp. Maf kills cop n1, and it continues until gs guns mafia on 3 way and mafia wins.
I STILL DONT UNDERSTAND SOME OF THESE ARGUMENTS HOW IS THIS RELATED TO CHEATING
https://epicmafia.com/game/4015469

WELL THIS GAME IS GONNA BE A SHITFEST! 8 OF THE 9 PLAYERS ON THE TABLE ARE IN THE FAMILY LMFAOOOOO.
this isn't cheating, we were just playing together <3
snowflake gs, yehet bp, emilie nilla, prezabama17 hooker, potatohohoho lawyer, jamzhao blue, soccer cop, mrkrazy blue.
Soccer dies n1, no gun because of hooker, town lynches mafia, snowflake dies, town lynches mafia, blue dies, town lynches mafia. Whodathunk?
lol some of the people in our family act really scummy as mafia don't hold it against them
https://epicmafia.com/game/4015745

Nobody in the family is in this game. Soccer wins.
HOLD ON WHAT HOW IS THIS RELATED TO ANYTHING
https://epicmafia.com/game/4015815

Soccer blue, emilie gov. Town lynches miller, soccer dies off of ghoul target, and lynches mafia. Emilie (shocker) hammers correctly for a town win.
erm, hold on, have you ever thought that we may just be playing together and not trying to let each other win think about it how would it be if we attempted to let each other win
https://epicmafia.com/game/4015856/review

Qesuited vegs.
Idk, qe is not in our family, so what
https://epicmafia.com/game/4015875

snowflake hooker, emilie and soccer blue, potatohohoho bp. Potato shoots mafia on 3 way lylo for the win for soccer
I admit this looked dodgy, but we've just grown accustomed to reading each other. I would not type paragraphs upon paragraphs of argument if I was not playing for my win condition

https://epicmafia.com/game/4012054

idk what circlejerking is but I don't see anything cheat worthy, as I said, we all play for our win conditions and perhaps I just townread them
Soccer bp, snowflake mafia. Soccer's gs gets hooked and town basically the bed with none of the cheaters dead. Snowflake wins a game.
https://epicmafia.com/game/4012903

are you saying soccer was trying to let me win it does look that way, but I felt like I was a more convincing blue than ron. WE ALL PLAY FOR OUR WIN CONDITIONS
Soccer is framer, emilie is blue. Soccer says this in maf chat: 06:35 soccer200... im mafia AGAIN
ok idk what this is or how this is cheating ive seen a lot of people say this
The last time soccer2002 was mafia was 3 games ago, when he was lawyer. Drunk dies n1, blue n2, and emilie does absolutely nothing and gets lynched for a soccer win.
https://epicmafia.com/game/4012919

emilie is a lurker, but I doubt she lurked just to let soccer win, im not kidding when I say we play for our win conditions
emilie maf, soccer blue.
Town just wrecks the mafia.
I want you to look at the game, emilie was probably acting extremely scummy

https://epicmafia.com/game/4010247

eh, idk, as I said, we all play for our win conditions. I've been hammered with 0 logic as mafia, are you sure you haven't? Like damn I've written essays of logic while the other dude is just saying I'm mafia with no evidence and I've gotten hammered. It's the hammer's choice. I doubt emilie could see the graveyard.
5 out of the 9 people in this game are in the family. Snowflake lawyer, yehet bulletproof, emilie and soccer blue, potato is hooker. Wlk vegs pretty quickly.
https://epicmafia.com/game/4010255

I DO NOT GET THIS EITHER. HOW IS THIS CHEATING
Snowflake cop, soccer lawyer. Even when nilla is lynched and soccer shot on day 1, town still loses to my bro NOWN11111 who carries the mafia solo for the win.
Some of your arguments don't make sense Nown isn't even in ruse and we LOST to him
Soccer is now 3 for 4 with snowflake. 3 for 3 when either on same town team or soccer is mafia and snowflake is town, or vice versa.
https://epicmafia.com/game/4011872

Ugh, I always play for my win condition. So does soccer. We don't give 2 if the other person wins. Jesus.
Snowflake and yehet blue, soccer is gunsmith. Glock18c claims bp as cop, gets gun, shoots his guilty, leads lynch on his cc for 2 mafia. Snowflake is able to circlejerk for a solid victory for the town team. 4 for 5 with snowflake.

https://epicmafia.com/game/4010187

Hammering wrong is not a vio. I will point out to you that none of us in the ruse group play against our win conditions.
Snowflake drunk, soccer mafia. Snowflake does not out a read on soccer after cop dies, and snowflake leads on a blue for a mafia win. Soccer is 3/3 with snowflake.
https://epicmafia.com/game/4010204

Again, this is a wrong hammer on my part. I did not play for soccer's win condition, I would not subject myself that low.
Soccer mafia, snowflake mafia, yehet blue. Town lynches cop day 1, but pranay as bp shoots soccer as hooker, snowflake as lawyer, and leads on silhouette as nilla for the easy town win.
https://epicmafia.com/game/4010224

Ok I don't get this one, there's nothing about yehet and I was mafia with soccer, both playing for the same win condition
Emiliewu and soccer are both blue. Town lynches miller, then mafia. Gov is dead and so is soccer for 3 way. Soccer asks who mafia is, dead miller answers and emilie immediately votes the mafia with logic comparable to a pile of in the mud. Town wins.

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Hello <3 This is about soccer
Hello! I've read the pastebin <3 I love how I'm dragged into this. May I post an argument?
On day 1, snowflake tries to protect soccer with this line: 11:22 snowflake...PIKACHU PLEASE.
Somebody really doesn't want soccer lynched, despite never outing a townread on them. Ghoul is targeted after pikachu is lynched, flipping miller. Ghoul kills snowflake and mafia is lynched the next day. Soccer lives and quickhammers Kevin, with snowflake in the grave.
I did not TOWNREAD soccer. I SCUMREAD pikachu. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.
Soccer mafia, yehet21 ghoul, emilie mafia as well.
Miller is lynched day 1, mafia kill the gov, and yehet hammers wrong for the win.