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if we're freeing A&D

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can we at least remake it again to so that maybe the point payout will be better this time?

about 10 years
i made a bad argument earlier in the thread because i focused on the round aspect instead of the single game aspect
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tl;dr - in decently competitive game, what defines who wins will mostly be the winners' skill eclipsing the losers', but if a setup is too [anything]sided, it's a lot more likely that being the correct alignment will what wins you the game instead of your own skill
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Lashka says

It doesn't spell anything... it's not a setup.


dumb obfuscation. u don't even have a semblance of a point anymore
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It doesn't spell anything... it's not a setup.
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You are welcome Connor. Next time you should know that whatever daddy does is for the good of his kids.
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sounds like u all just ganged up on connor for how many pages even tho he was blatantly right
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Lashka says

At no point have I argued A&D is a good setup, Sirius.


besides the point. look at what u quoted and tell me it doesn't spell a broken setup
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Bad night action from mafia is not luck. It means bag pr reading.
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pranay, all you've done ITT by revealing my alt is let me celebrate outwardly that i won a trophy last round because i didn't get to do it despite being excited when i did
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At no point have I argued A&D is a good setup, Sirius.
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A&D is a fun setup if say you wanna sit back and face desk for 30 straight minutes
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Most of a&ds town wins come from the town getting lucky with night actions, so it's not really a stretch to say that it's determined by rng. But that just makes it a bad setup
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Hibiki says

looking at a single game, if a setup is scumsided, it, (obviously) becomes really hard to win as town - if it's too hard, and you can't win unless you are really really good, or you get a group of good players on your team, who are all playing up to scratch. too much difficulty for one side removes autonomy (control of the game's events, or outcome in this case) from the players


what i should have articulated that in order for a game to be skill-based (which is what should define competitive) then a large degree of the outcome needs to be controlled by the players, where that control stems from the player's skill. (the outcome in this case being the PLAYERS, not alignment, who wins)
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pranay7744 says

Hey giga. I won the trophy just so I can get a congratulations from you . I do have feelings.


i am happy for you. i am proud, good job

how is life man
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connors argument is wrong because he's just using the % in his argument, A&D is a bad setup and I agree, the only reason is because 58% of the time an idiot will roll BP and single handedly lose the game for town.

That's why A&D sucks, because 58% of the time the BP is bad.

sds - a setup with pretty much the same payout is a far better setup because it's not really in the hands of one idiot, it's in the hands of multiple idiots who can't scum hunt or find mafia
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Lashka says


Hibiki says

scum basically win cuz they rolled scum and that's BS.





ur dumb as heck if u don't think this makes for a broken setup
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Hey giga. I won the trophy just so I can get a congratulations from you . I do have feelings.
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Hibiki says

scum basically win cuz they rolled scum and that's BS.

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Glad to hear, bud
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riot - quote the part where i said "RNG is bad"
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Sims says

Welcome back giga


thank you sims

bearguru, i am good
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"I'm not beaten, I can ad hominem my way out of this yet!"
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connor is right tbh. not sure if a&d has gone over that threshold of being broken af tho
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No giga . Prs don't claim day 1. Stop before you start.
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Giga13 says

what is happening friends



cash says

i didnt have time so i rushed
[4/17/2015 2:27:38 PM] Connor: the only reason i asked was because i was gonna be like "yeah well you better lose!!! cuz i wanna keep silver!"
[4/17/2015 2:27:49 PM] pranay: you are ryuko?
[4/17/2015 2:27:53 PM] Connor: =)
[4/17/2015 2:27:55 PM] pranay: lol
[4/17/2015 2:28:01 PM] pranay: you cant be ryuko
[4/17/2015 2:28:02 PM] Connor: but shh
[4/17/2015 2:28:07 PM] pranay: has to be kerry
[4/17/2015 2:28:07 PM] Connor: i havent decided if i want to reveal yet
[4/17/2015 2:28:14 PM] pranay: you are not ryuko
[4/17/2015 2:28:15 PM] pranay: at all
[4/17/2015 2:28:35 PM] pranay: ok if you are ryuko
[4/17/2015 2:28:36 PM] pranay: then tell me
[4/17/2015 2:28:36 PM] Connor: i swear on my life dude
[4/17/2015 2:28:43 PM] Connor: why would kerry be
[4/17/2015 2:28:44 PM] Connor: http://i.imgur.com/hHwK7HW.png
[4/17/2015 2:28:46 PM] pranay: how did prison force nl
[4/17/2015 2:28:50 PM] Connor: cuz he misclicked
[4/17/2015 2:28:50 PM] pranay: quick
[4/17/2015 2:28:56 PM] pranay: no he didnt misclick
[4/17/2015 2:28:58 PM] pranay: ok
[4/17/2015 2:28:58 PM] pranay: well
[4/17/2015 2:29:01 PM] pranay: how did you let him force nl
[4/17/2015 2:29:01 PM] Connor: he said he did
[4/17/2015 2:29:04 PM] Connor: and i believed him
[4/17/2015 2:29:04 PM] Connor: i was dead
[4/17/2015 2:29:05 PM] pranay: if you are ryuko
[4/17/2015 2:29:07 PM] Connor: i died n2
[4/17/2015 2:29:08 PM] pranay: then you are a big noob
[4/17/2015 2:29:11 PM] Connor: LOL
[4/17/2015 2:29:27 PM] Connor: what did i do
[4/17/2015 2:29:31 PM] pranay: many games
[4/17/2015 2:29:38 PM] pranay: well im busy with work
[4/17/2015 2:29:40 PM] Connor: ok
[4/17/2015 2:29:40 PM] pranay: so we will talk later
[4/17/2015 2:29:46 PM] Connor: cya hf