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if we're freeing A&D

over 10 years

can we at least remake it again to so that maybe the point payout will be better this time?

over 10 years
People need to be aware that clears arend gods or goddesses, and that EM is about having reads on your own and try to convince others and discuss about it, but that's not going to happen lol
over 10 years
The only thing that's bad about this setup (and every other setup likely) is people being butthurt when they start voting with another person and then complain that they lost without even trying to convince others that their initials reads are correct for whatever reason
over 10 years
its truly a point-farm for sharp players, but if the strategy meta wasn't so horrifically moronic it would be a nearly balanced setup... but then again... it wouldn't be A&D as we know it either.
over 10 years
41% town winrate with 71 points payout, mods what the ****
over 10 years

ediz12 says

Kicks weren't at all up, it was blitzed by mafia which was unexpected for me. If kicks were up I'd have definitely unvoted, that's when it would have been a throw




you should never put a vote up on anyone other than who the clear is voting if his vote is up already, but seeing as how you claim to have been blitzd before kicks, if that is true its not really GT just a dumb play.
over 10 years
ye ediz i read the game. u good
over 10 years

SuperNova says

Just stop playing this setup damn it. No skills.


With any other setup the normal reaction would be to host other setups, but people literally cant stop playing that freaking setup and no other gold heart table will fill, unless you spam the forums/ invite people.

Which is why I personally fought for its ban for ages, but apparently mods finally gave in.
over 10 years
Just stop playing this setup damn it. No skills.
over 10 years
Kicks weren't at all up, it was blitzed by mafia which was unexpected for me. If kicks were up I'd have definitely unvoted, that's when it would have been a throw
over 10 years

ediz12 says

It was either I was wrong or the clear was wrong. It's impossible to win in both cases unless you convince the other side, what's your point? If the clear truly believed anti was scum he should have put as much effort as I have, it's not at all throwing


The only way to win, is not to play.

-Albert Einstein
over 10 years
if kicks are up then you don't have a choice at that point
over 10 years
i mean, if you honestly dont understand why you put yourself in auto-loss by not voting with confirmed town on lylo then maybe I'd give you a note for a red-heart if i was the mod, but this is comp and you (frikked) the game up singlehandedly.
over 10 years
It was either I was wrong or the clear was wrong. It's impossible to win in both cases unless you convince the other side, what's your point? If the clear truly believed anti was scum he should have put as much effort as I have, it's not at all throwing
over 10 years
ediz, theyre right. splitting votes at lylo is a guaranteed loss
over 10 years
voting in such a way that makes it impossible for you to win is playing against your win condition
over 10 years
GT is playing against your win conditions. Voting based on your reads =/= GT
over 10 years

ediz12 says

Not following the clear is GT on this setup apparently




it was lylo, so ya thats GT in any setup. if you are voting against the clear on lylo it is literally impossible to win.
over 10 years
How To Win In AD as a Blue

1. NL D1
2. Say "Im not mafia" the loudest and just towntell, you wont need to scumhunt at all since that is what you have clears for.
3. Sheep the clear
4. Win game and achieve inflated ego
over 10 years

ediz12 says

Not following the clear is GT on this setup apparently




My point exactly
over 10 years

UniversalStudios says


Edark says


UniversalStudios says

What ediz says is impossible as long as it's acceptable to do nothing in game but wait on someone else to play the game for you.


Which is exactly why AD is so damn popular


This is wrong seeing as the premier complaint about the setup is a bad clear, however people farmed it because mastery of this setup netted you a lot of points. And seeing as it's a relatively simple setup outside of dumb clears, mastery isn't that challenging for anyone competent enough to play to win.




I never said it was hard to carry, but that the startegy and playstyle is awfull and promotes the worst in epicmafia. Its popular since players can do jackshit the entire game and still win and just blame the clear if they lose.
over 10 years
Not following the clear is GT on this setup apparently

over 10 years

pranay7744 says

Yeah, edark, your only friend in life is slow who you prioritize in games. I have seen it first hand. Voting his cc when he was confirmed mafia. Because you didn't wanna vote your friend. That is what you are. A disgrace.


Assburgers is a terrible syndrome to have
over 10 years
@Peta "looking" and "being" are two different things
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over 10 years
Yeah, edark, your only friend in life is slow who you prioritize in games. I have seen it first hand. Voting his cc when he was confirmed mafia. Because you didn't wanna vote your friend. That is what you are. A disgrace.