Epicmafia

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Smorlicious says

jagger says

Smorlicious says

Connor says

Smorlicious says

I want us to nuke the middle east tbh

you're messed up

It'd solve a lot of problems. Alternatively, I think the west should just close it's borders and pull out of the middle east and let Muslims fight and kill each other...the whole reason why they hate the west, America in particular, is because we got involved in their business to begin with.

Haha wow it's like you've gone through a series of mental set-backs

Why is it my country's job (The U.S.) to have to be the worlds police? To clean up the mess other imperialistic nations caused? Why do Americans have to waste tax dollars on conflicts half way around the globe from us? I want us to stop being the worlds policemen.

I want the US of A to nuke the Middle East to be honest

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"Ah well, I'm sick and tired of arguing with these brown pigs, I think we're gonna back out and have them kill each other, because I strongly believe they're going to forget about us once we're gone"

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Hm, yes, that's very possible

On the other hand, if you're deluding yourself that America patrols countries on the other side of the globe for the sake of peace-keeping you're a friggin dumbass.

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jagger says

Smorlicious says

Connor says

Smorlicious says

I want us to nuke the middle east tbh

you're messed up

It'd solve a lot of problems. Alternatively, I think the west should just close it's borders and pull out of the middle east and let Muslims fight and kill each other...the whole reason why they hate the west, America in particular, is because we got involved in their business to begin with.

Haha wow it's like you've gone through a series of mental set-backs

Why is it my country's job (The U.S.) to have to be the worlds police? To clean up the mess other imperialistic nations caused? Why do Americans have to waste tax dollars on conflicts half way around the globe from us? I want us to stop being the worlds policemen.

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Smorlicious says

Connor says

Smorlicious says

I want us to nuke the middle east tbh

you're messed up

It'd solve a lot of problems. Alternatively, I think the west should just close it's borders and pull out of the middle east and let Muslims fight and kill each other...the whole reason why they hate the west, America in particular, is because we got involved in their business to begin with.

Haha wow it's like you've gone through a series of mental set-backs

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Agreed. Britain needs to stop leaving, and go back in. Things were so much better when we ruled the world.

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Yea. As well as imperialistic Brits that like to rule countries then leave them broken and messed up.

Clair

almost 10 years

it'd solve problems like overpopulation in the US and europe, imo

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Connor says

Smorlicious says

I want us to nuke the middle east tbh

you're messed up

It'd solve a lot of problems. Alternatively, I think the west should just close it's borders and pull out of the middle east and let Muslims fight and kill each other...the whole reason why they hate the west, America in particular, is because we got involved in their business to begin with.

Clair

almost 10 years

Smorlicious says

I want us to nuke the middle east tbh

you're messed up

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I want us to nuke the middle east tbh

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Grannie says

The sand people are easily startled, but they will soon be back, and in greater numbers.

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Rondar says

Those are actually grossly mistranslated and misinterpreted but yeah I'm not having this conversation again.

JackTheLad

almost 10 years

shiggyshaggy says

Here is my thought....

ISIS like other radical groups or dictatorships, always has the United States and others to blame. As long as they do, it gives them a legitimate rallying cry to their people. Cuba is a good example of this. Castro has stayed in power for as long as he has in part becuase he is able to blame the U.S for causing their poverty and economic troubles (the embargo). As soon as that is gone, there would be nothing else for him to blame and the people would catch on and throw him out.

One argument I have thus heard (not my opinion but one I know of) is that the U.S should back out of any military action against ISIS. Other nations around Iraq and Syria will be more eager to deal with it because those countries share the border with Iraq and/or Syria. Eventually the reasonable muslims will get sick of the radicals and put them down or they will elect a dictator who will.

As evil and awful as Saddam was, he also kept radical sunni groups and other radical militant groups from forming. The U.S mistake was overthrowing that balance by getting rid of Saddam's regime.

I stopped reading after I saw "U.S" the Islamic state are jihadists and hates everyone else equally :3

Rondar

almost 10 years

Those are actually grossly mistranslated and misinterpreted but yeah I'm not having this conversation again.

Grannie

almost 10 years

mimerafm says

ISIS isn't Sunni, ISIS is Wahhabi Muslim. They have no right to kill Muslims or non-Muslims.

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet those who disbelieve, smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them."

They apparently do have the right to kill non-muslims...

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Shakes head unhappily

SnakeKing

almost 10 years

ISIS are just a group of misunderstood people, in actuality they are cool guys. I watched videos of them where they bond together

mimerafm

almost 10 years

"the basis of Islam and Allah (PBUH) was crafted during a time of military upheaval in the Arabian Peninsula so yeah, it's not a surprise that a militaristic God was forged to suit their expanding empire."
The Arabian Empire started to expand after Omar became the Khalifah, and at that time Islam was already formed. Also starting a war with another country is very limited in Islam. You can't just claim war with another country. there are countless terms and conditions in Ibtedai Jihad. pm me for more details.

"ISIS are Sunni."
ISIS isn't Sunni, ISIS is Wahhabi Muslim. They have no right to kill Muslims or non-Muslims but they slaughter innocent men and women and burn or tear apart their bodies. They've invented Jihad Nikah or Sexual Jihad. They've reached a point that they claim incest is okay in form of Sexual Jihad. So it's not appropriate to call them Sunni Muslims.

Btw I'm a Shi'a Muslim myself.

Majiffy

almost 10 years

Warrens says

if isis goes to italy they're gonna get annihilated by the italian mafia lol

I doubt Cosa Nostra has a fraction of their old strength. Certainly not enough to take out ISIS.

For certain, American mafia families have lost almost all their power and influence in comparison to the golden era of the early 1900s through the '70s.

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it is what it is

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Usually I avoid threads like these but I'd like to point out that Grannie claimed Hezbollah are joining up with ISIS and I couldn't read that without losing some brain cells, so I'll point out that Hezbollah are Al-Assad's key ally and are fighting ISIS regularly, because they are Shia and ISIS are sunni.

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they are awful people.

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To get rid of poverty kill the poor

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ISIS however are a means of population control strung together by the Western governments to kill poor people