Epicmafia

Miki

over 10 years

no :{

deletedover 10 years

Banning past cheaters from having secret alts sounds reasonable.

Miki

over 10 years

Apostasy says

I think it's pretty ridiculous that you guys let former cheaters trophy run at all, even if they aren't cheating anymore. The only remotely forgivable cheater is Anthony and he is the exception that proves the rule.

what about me? its been 3 years. :o

you gotta realise people learn their lesson and it would be unfair to say x doesn't deserve a chance but y does. ofc if they abuse it then byebye for another 6 months~

Apostasy says

I'm not contradicting myself at all. Do I like Anthony? Sure. Do I think he's a good mafia player? Better than me. Do I think he should be allowed to trophy run? No, because he knowingly participated in stealing a trophy from someone else who earned it.

thats what a 6 month ban from lobby/running is for. hell of a long punishment

deletedover 10 years

There was a huge cheating ring involved and we wanted to make sure we banned every single one, which is why it took a while.

deletedover 10 years

so, the solution would be to make a thread where past cheaters have to announce their intentions to run in whilst making it clear who they are. that way, all eyes will be on them throughout the round and any ex-cheaters who try to run w/o making a post first will be blocked from taking trophies.

Goodbar

over 10 years

there's some degree of privacy alts have even with mods. i wasn't a mod for any of last round though so

deletedover 10 years

Goodbar says

anthony didn't really "cheat" he was pressured into throwing for someone who lied about cancer for like 1-2 games. not his best moment but on the spectrum of cheating intensity this sits at the very bottom

yeah, that too

pereking

over 10 years

Ferhunde not being dealt with before the round ended was a combination of him not being in a position to win a trophy, things being worked on behind the scenes, and me wanting to ban his entire cheating ring all at the same time.

deletedover 10 years

Tbh if I'd known Faithless was Sidekick before the round ended it would've been an interesting enough case for me to investigate it last round.

deletedover 10 years

I was under the impression that mods knew the identities of all secret alts

deletedover 10 years

well, flex being prevail did become apparent before the round was over, but the overall slowness of the holidays probably played a part in that mess as well.

deletedover 10 years

faithless being sidekick wasn't well known. flex being prevail wasn't well known. ferhunde didn't run on a secret account and was pretty much spotted as a cheater in days. the only reason it took all around for a ban because she gave up half way through and wasn't near the top anymore. seems to me like maybe the issue is past cheaters running on secret identities, not past cheaters running alltogether.

Goodbar

over 10 years

i'm not a mod and i didn't??

deletedover 10 years

i may not win but at least i can try

deletedover 10 years

Goodbar says

anthony didn't really "cheat" he was pressured into throwing for someone who lied about cancer for like 1-2 games. not his best moment but on the spectrum of cheating intensity this sits at the very bottom

Great, now stop letting known cheaters win trophies every round dude

Arcbell

over 10 years

Goodbar says

anthony didn't really "cheat" he was pressured into throwing for someone who lied about cancer for like 1-2 games. not his best moment but on the spectrum of cheating intensity this sits at the very bottom

Indeed, he took it like a man though.

Goodbar

over 10 years

anthony didn't really "cheat" he was pressured into throwing for someone who lied about cancer for like 1-2 games. not his best moment but on the spectrum of cheating intensity this sits at the very bottom

deletedover 10 years

On the bright side caroline, at least we know you won't win

deletedover 10 years

i'm allowed to trophy run again in 2 days

smd

Plexar

over 10 years

My two cents' worth would be to prohibit players that had previously cheated together to be playing with each other in competitive games and disallow them from playing on alts until let's say 3 months (to have shown reformation).

deletedover 10 years

Ferhunde made her bio a screenshot of vancy unbanning her and her avatar a chick rolling her eyes. She was proud to be cheating and frankly it's really crazy that it took all round for the mods to catch a cheater who wanted to be caught.

deletedover 10 years

I like Anthony a lot but I am firm in my principles, and I think 3 rounds in a row of former cheaters cheating with sidekick actually getting away with it twice is enough to outweigh any forgiveness I might have for Anthony

apeescaper

over 10 years

Basically everyone in the forums kept an eye on Ferhunde last round and agreed that she was cheating, yet she wasn't banned until the round was over

deletedover 10 years

FoodLion says

i've got a solution. how about past cheaters have to inform the mods when they plan to trophy run and mods just keep a close eye on their games?? that seems like an everybody wins solution to me.

solid.

deletedover 10 years

The way you worded

Apostasy says

I do believe that he legitimately learned his lesson but unfortunately for him the rest of them are freaking psychotic

made it sound like you were wanting to give him another shot.