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Remove Vancyon as Admin

deletedalmost 11 years

I am become Brutus.

A. The mod team is full of incompetent loons, sandbox players, cheaters, and account sharers who are allowed to stay because vancyon is a coward.

B. The new sub-forums are stupid and reflect the absolutely terrible ideas he is responsible for. This is like the biggest change he's made during his adminship. He added an effing food forum. On a site about java mafia.

C. He lets things like Manhunt and a and r be comped, thus diluting the only valuable part of this horrible cesspool of a website (gold hearts)

D. He took like a 2 week vacation like basically right after becoming admin because he can't handle the heat.

F. He's immature and he posts like pokemon pictures and stuff. Screw that.

G. He's the worst admin I've seen during my 5 years on the site. I was not around for arcbell.

H. Deadmin him and let's try again and deadmin that one too later on when they suck

Kerry
almost 11 years
WHY IS MY PHONE STILL ON THIS ACCOUNT
Arcbell
almost 11 years

ZeroFurrbone says


ZeroFurrbone says


ZeroFurrbone says

I dont care about the new forums. I care how it took them hours to make a decision like that, but if its change in rules it takes them months...


How about Vancy replying to this -.-





PM him instead of complaining on the forums xxerox. I know you probably have PM'd him and other admins and it hasn't worked. That's usually because they are at their quota of dealing with complaints due to the forums doing stuff like this every day. If everyone used PM to complain instead of the forums then admins would be able to respond to PM complaints with an iota of patience to spare.
deletedalmost 11 years

Apostasy says

Guns shouldn't be allowed in gold hearts because the lowest common denominator can't handle the temptation


yeah neither should sheep the clear setups, blacklist vdli
Kerry
almost 11 years
*sees garbage thread*
*expects half a page of posts*
>tfw 12 pages
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Sims says

that guy was a pretty cool fella.


I actually thought so.
deletedalmost 11 years
Guns shouldn't be allowed in gold hearts because the lowest common denominator can't handle the temptation
deletedalmost 11 years
the biggest issue with a&d is the fact that it's impossible to shift the meta towards the correct way to play the setup as town, which is to have all 3 town PRs claim as PR day 1 and lynch
deletedalmost 11 years

Rutab says


Idiom says


Rutab says

It does take attitudes into account. Keep in mind that Slow's attitude was not extremely bad. I didn't say attitudes make or break the application (if it's not that bad), but I said it's definitely taken into account. I don't think you understand the caliber of "bad attitude" or what kind of bad attitude I am talking about


Enlighten me then. What types of attitudes are you talking about, Rutab?


I don't want to get too specific because then I'll give too many examples of certain users and I do not want to call them out like that


Smart way of bringing this argument to a standstill without you losing it.

Still, the original point here is that you have to be friendly with certain people to get modded, and there are some members who apply, great attitudes and all, but they aren't in the circle. Application just sits there for years. What happens, then?
Sims
almost 11 years
that guy was a pretty cool fella.
deletedalmost 11 years

Sims says

attitudes that will get you modded: mine


Maybe if you behaved more like that LetzShake bloke.
deletedalmost 11 years

ZeroFurrbone says


ZeroFurrbone says

I dont care about the new forums. I care how it took them hours to make a decision like that, but if its change in rules it takes them months...


How about Vancy replying to this -.-


I've been replying to all posts in order. Stop being so impatient, especially when I'm devoting all of this time to actually addressing everyone's concerns.

Rule changes are more controversial than the addition of sub-forums, so obviously its important to devote more time to them. They're also harder to agree on and almost all discussions just end up back where they started. If the player base is unanimously dissatisfied with a rule then I work to change it as soon as possible, but otherwise time is not of the essence. What rules do you want changed so badly, anyway? If you give me some examples, it will be easier for me to tell you what's taking so long, or why those changes won't work.
Miki
almost 11 years

BiIIStickers says


Harrold says


BiIIStickers says


Harrold says

Though you need to look at it from the perspective of 2 people competing for a trophy, whereby one is running on Manhunt and another is running on a scumhunting setup. Should the one running on Manhunt edge the competition, it can only be viewed upon as a negative by the majority of the community, as they would feel it unjustified.


which is an issue with point yields and not the setup itself

there is absolutely nothing wrong with heavily mechanics based setups; people have been calling 163 a great setup for years and it's absolutely nothing but mechanics


The conclusion is to bring A&D back.


i completely agree; there's no logical reason for a&d to be removed from the setup pool aside from "i dont like it". if you think there's an issue with a&d point yields then the solution is to fix the point yields, not blacklist a&d

Sims
almost 11 years
attitudes that will get you modded: mine
deletedalmost 11 years

Idiom says


Rutab says

It does take attitudes into account. Keep in mind that Slow's attitude was not extremely bad. I didn't say attitudes make or break the application (if it's not that bad), but I said it's definitely taken into account. I don't think you understand the caliber of "bad attitude" or what kind of bad attitude I am talking about


Enlighten me then. What types of attitudes are you talking about, Rutab?


I don't want to get too specific because then I'll give too many examples of certain users and I do not want to call them out like that
deletedalmost 11 years

Harrold says


BiIIStickers says


Harrold says

Though you need to look at it from the perspective of 2 people competing for a trophy, whereby one is running on Manhunt and another is running on a scumhunting setup. Should the one running on Manhunt edge the competition, it can only be viewed upon as a negative by the majority of the community, as they would feel it unjustified.


which is an issue with point yields and not the setup itself

there is absolutely nothing wrong with heavily mechanics based setups; people have been calling 163 a great setup for years and it's absolutely nothing but mechanics


The conclusion is to bring A&D back.


i completely agree; there's no logical reason for a&d to be removed from the setup pool aside from "i dont like it". if you think there's an issue with a&d point yields then the solution is to fix the point yields, not blacklist a&d
ZeroFurrbone
almost 11 years

ZeroFurrbone says


ZeroFurrbone says

I dont care about the new forums. I care how it took them hours to make a decision like that, but if its change in rules it takes them months...


How about Vancy replying to this -.-

deletedalmost 11 years

Rutab says

It does take attitudes into account. Keep in mind that Slow's attitude was not extremely bad. I didn't say attitudes make or break the application (if it's not that bad), but I said it's definitely taken into account. I don't think you understand the caliber of "bad attitude" or what kind of bad attitude I am talking about


Enlighten me then. What types of attitudes are you talking about, Rutab?
Sims
almost 11 years
i'm not pissed at vancy and comping manhunt and these subforums are both awful
deletedalmost 11 years
The point is not that bear was in a circle, it is the fact that his attitude was terrible and rutab just made a claim that attitude is taken into account when modding someone.
deletedalmost 11 years

BiIIStickers says


Harrold says

Though you need to look at it from the perspective of 2 people competing for a trophy, whereby one is running on Manhunt and another is running on a scumhunting setup. Should the one running on Manhunt edge the competition, it can only be viewed upon as a negative by the majority of the community, as they would feel it unjustified.


which is an issue with point yields and not the setup itself

there is absolutely nothing wrong with heavily mechanics based setups; people have been calling 163 a great setup for years and it's absolutely nothing but mechanics


The conclusion is to bring A&D back.
Arcbell
almost 11 years
Just a quick reminder to everyone:

No one would be complaining this much about manhunt being comped and adding more subforums if certain people weren't already pissed at vancy for other, unrelated reasons.
deletedalmost 11 years
It does take attitudes into account. Keep in mind that Slow's attitude was not extremely bad. I didn't say attitudes make or break the application (if it's not that bad), but I said it's definitely taken into account. I don't think you understand the caliber of "bad attitude" or what kind of bad attitude I am talking about
deletedalmost 11 years
Bear was pretty great at mafia
deletedalmost 11 years

Harrold says

Though you need to look at it from the perspective of 2 people competing for a trophy, whereby one is running on Manhunt and another is running on a scumhunting setup. Should the one running on Manhunt edge the competition, it can only be viewed upon as a negative by the majority of the community, as they would feel it unjustified.


which is an issue with point yields and not the setup itself

there is absolutely nothing wrong with heavily mechanics based setups; people have been calling 163 a great setup for years and it's absolutely nothing but mechanics
Sims
almost 11 years
the mod team is a lot more of individual little circles than one giant circle, and it always has been