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Is hipfiring gamethrowing?

over 10 years

Is hipfiring gamethrowing?

Why or why not? Discuss.

What if one hipfires correctly, should they be reported for gamethrowing?

And why does someone who hipfires incorrectly get in trouble with doing so when they were simply taking the risk that they would hipfire correctly and be rewarded for good behavior?

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Is hipfiring gamethrowing?
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No
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Yes
over 10 years

Sanctify says

Jesus Christ you're either a troll or an idiot, either way you're getting forum blocked I cannot spend another minute reading your posts


Go ahead bro, I couldn't care less.
over 10 years
Jesus Christ you're either a troll or an idiot, either way you're getting forum blocked I cannot spend another minute reading your posts
over 10 years
a cop shooting their guilty isn't hipfire anyway. Hipfire is when you shoot at the start of the day based on no evidence. A cop would have a report, so they have evidence. Since it's generally agreed upon that a town with a gun should a) consult with gunsmith, b) scum hunt, and c) talk about their shot, a maf hipfiring would be automatically scummy and not playing towards their win condition. It's basically outing oneself. And hipfire creates a situation where the town had less time to scumhunt, no time for GS or cop to establish themselves, and distracts from finding mafia. There is no way hipfiring as a town is helping your win condition, even if you are lucky and hit maf. It automatically makes you look suspicious and allows the real maf to hide in the chaos.
over 10 years

Sanctify says

Betrayal you can use common sense and know that no rule or law is ever set in stone. Certain scenarios will alter the rule. IF COP IS GUNNED AND GETS A GUILTY THY CAN HIPIRE THE GUITY. IF ORC ORCS MAFIA AND THEY ARE NAKED TOWN CAN HIPFIRE THE GUILTY .


No. A law is a law, Sanctify. That's like saying, the white man who shot the black teen isn't GUILTY because it was self defense. Are you saying that he's above the law because it's a special exception?
over 10 years
The game cannot just flip to d1 like in Fronter Justice and sherif decides to HIPFIRE because THAT DOES NOTHING. You cold have shot the cops inno, the cop, the journalist. And even if you do shot mafia you're now losing possible partner tells that could have happened if that said person was alive AKA READS. How are you not comprehending this???
over 10 years
Betrayal you can use common sense and know that no rule or law is ever set in stone. Certain scenarios will alter the rule. IF COP IS GUNNED AND GETS A GUILTY THY CAN HIPIRE THE GUITY. IF ORC ORCS MAFIA AND THEY ARE NAKED TOWN CAN HIPFIRE THE GUILTY .
over 10 years

Sanctify says

Okay so do you believe hipfiring is a GT...? Yes or no


Hipfiring is not GT as I voted in the poll.

According to UCKLAR, its only gamethrow when town does it but not mafia

but I used the cop situation to prove that town can hipfire without gamethrowing

although I believe that even if a blue hipfires, it shouldnt constitute as GT
over 10 years

Sanctify says

I think even may at understands the logic of how a town hipfiring is a game throw and cop hipfiring their guilty is my a game throw.


A cop hipfiring guilty is not game throw

but according to Ucklar it is since only MAFIA are an exception as he stated earlier

I am trying to prove to Ucklar that he's wrong about his statement
over 10 years
Okay so do you believe hipfiring is a GT...? Yes or no
over 10 years
I think even may at understands the logic of how a town hipfiring is a game throw and cop hipfiring their guilty is my a game throw.
over 10 years

Sanctify says

Betrayal I knew you sucked at this game based off the few games I did play with you, however I didn't know you also suffered mental retardation. Do you not see how wrong you are right now?


Do you not see how arrogant you are right now? You are judging me when you don't really know me. Anywho, I didn't say I was right about anything, I am speaking theoretically therefore what I say is different from what I believe.
over 10 years
This thread is disgusting and I'm going to come In it just so it moves to a different subform, holy cow you're dumb
over 10 years
he's stating that any mafia hipfiring is not a vio since they're playing towards their win condition, any townie shooting could be a vio especially if its baseless.

cop is playing towards town's win condition by hipfiring a guilty
over 10 years
I think that the community should take a vote to determine whether hipfiring should be given a violation or not.
over 10 years
Betrayal I knew you sucked at this game based off the few games I did play with you, however I didn't know you also suffered mental retardation. Do you not see how wrong you are right now?
over 10 years

Satan says


Betrayal says


Ucklar says


Betrayal says


Ucklar says

For the most part, if most people have talked and the accused can come up with a plausible reason for shooting, it's fine. The only way its a violation is if you shoot so early in the day that it would be impossible to gather reads. The bottom line is you need to have at least a little bit of reasoning as to why you shot, and not just, "Oh, I have a gun. Yolo."


okay but you havent answered, what if I'm nilla and after saccing the COP n1, I decide to hipfire a townie and that townie was doc. Do I have to explain myself or is that gamethrowing and I deserve to be banned/vio for it? roflmao


There are always exceptions to rules~ The hipfiring rule only applies to townies shooting.


so how is a mafia hipfiring a townie any different from a townie hipfiring a mafia?

or a cop hipfiring a miller who was guilty?


a cop hipfiring a miller is not GTing bc the cop is using the resources hes given to play towards his win condition


whereas a townie hipfiring is GTing bc there's no substance to their fos. they just hipfired for no reason


Yes, I know but according to Ucklar, a cop is town sided therefore hipfiring as town is worthy of the violation. I agree with you but Ucklar does not. Ucklar believes any town who hipfires is not an exception to the rule, only mafia are.
over 10 years

Sanctify says

No because he had a report you fuxkin moron


Yes but according to Ucklar, only mafia are exceptions to the rule so he would be given a violation for hipfiring since he is town.
over 10 years

Betrayal says


Ucklar says


Betrayal says


Ucklar says

For the most part, if most people have talked and the accused can come up with a plausible reason for shooting, it's fine. The only way its a violation is if you shoot so early in the day that it would be impossible to gather reads. The bottom line is you need to have at least a little bit of reasoning as to why you shot, and not just, "Oh, I have a gun. Yolo."


okay but you havent answered, what if I'm nilla and after saccing the COP n1, I decide to hipfire a townie and that townie was doc. Do I have to explain myself or is that gamethrowing and I deserve to be banned/vio for it? roflmao


There are always exceptions to rules~ The hipfiring rule only applies to townies shooting.


so how is a mafia hipfiring a townie any different from a townie hipfiring a mafia?

or a cop hipfiring a miller who was guilty?


a cop hipfiring a miller is not GTing bc the cop is using the resources hes given to play towards his win condition


whereas a townie hipfiring is GTing bc there's no substance to their fos. they just hipfired for no reason
over 10 years
No because he had a report you fuxkin moron
over 10 years
since you say it only applies to townies hipfiring
over 10 years
Ucklar does a cop who incorrectly hipfires a MILLER who he thought was guilty also deserve the TROLLING VIOLATION?
over 10 years

Ucklar says


Betrayal says


Ucklar says

For the most part, if most people have talked and the accused can come up with a plausible reason for shooting, it's fine. The only way its a violation is if you shoot so early in the day that it would be impossible to gather reads. The bottom line is you need to have at least a little bit of reasoning as to why you shot, and not just, "Oh, I have a gun. Yolo."


okay but you havent answered, what if I'm nilla and after saccing the COP n1, I decide to hipfire a townie and that townie was doc. Do I have to explain myself or is that gamethrowing and I deserve to be banned/vio for it? roflmao


There are always exceptions to rules~ The hipfiring rule only applies to townies shooting.


so how is a mafia hipfiring a townie any different from a townie hipfiring a mafia?

or a cop hipfiring a miller who was guilty?
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yeah betrayal *doesn't look up from book i'm reading* you should definitely stop hipfiring *doesn't make eye contact* heavens knows what would happen if you hit 8 vios
over 10 years
is a mafia who hipfires a town trolling? because they're trying to outnumber the town to win?
over 10 years

Steven says

I don't need to read the game to know that Betrayal was, indeed, trolling in whatever sparked this thread


how is hipfiring trolling? people hipfire with the intention to shoot the opposing team