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Why is someone who was banned for cheating modded

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dezeriae says


eris says

Why the alt Dez?


Not my alt.


It's either you or someone who resides with you, it's old enough to be in my DB.
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Gira handled it
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There's a compelling reason to lie about it and that's to keep his good image, especially if he's applying to be a mod. I never did look at the case so I won't weigh in on it but saying he would have confessed by now is silly, there is absolutely no gain to confessing.

If he did cheat, it shows that he did not own up to his mistakes like other people have, and that's a serious quality a mod needs. Because he was banned for cheating, the assumption as a mod that you should be making is that he did indeed cheat unless you actually looked at the case, which I doubt.

If he didn't cheat, then that is really sucky for him but you just can mod him based on that assumption, IMO
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dezeriae says


eris says

Why the alt Dez?


Not my alt.


Too bad, you made some valid points.
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Snicker
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eris says

Why the alt Dez?


Not my alt.
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>I believe him.
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Or should I say JegElskerDig
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lmfao. AHAHAHAHAHAHa
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Steven says

Serious question: did gaf ever say he did indeed cheat? I know he was banned for it of course


on his application? no.
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Why the alt Dez?
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Some cheaters don't always admit to cheating because they don't want to damage their image. General knowledge to most people.
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Steven says

Serious question: did gaf ever say he did indeed cheat? I know he was banned for it of course


No. Absolutely not. He still says he never cheated and I don't really see any reason why he'd lie about it after such a long time. Especially when he told a then super new player (me) about it he had no reason whatsoever to lie.

So yeah, to answer another question, I can admit to being a mod that knew about Gaf's background. I also believe him 100%.
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lmfao. Remember wonderland
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If past conduct, in a game no less, doesn't influence the present capabilities and competence of a potential moderator to do his/her job, then there is little to argue against.

Additionally if the past conduct wasn't committed in a position of power, then there is even less reason for dispute, since the past unrelated behaviour is non-indicative of the persons use of said power.

Finally, if there is control (from admins, mods, and the public), like with any other moderator, then any cause for concern should be reduced proportionally. It is not a perfect system, anybody has the potential to do errors, so don't have unrealistic expectations to the selection of possible candidates.
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yeah it would
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lolwot says

Question: Would you guys have this same kind of backlash if it was Anthony modded instead of Gaf right now?


Yes especially since Anthony managed to cheat for a few trophies.
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Well it was, she's right about that. Doesn't make it any less valid but the precedent was thrown away.

IMO, it should even be extended to anyone banned for breaking game-related rules, but hey
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i'd have a problem with any cheater being modded because i'm a moral and ethical dude, but i do like some cheaters more than others.
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lolwot says

Question: Would you guys have this same kind of backlash if it was Anthony modded instead of Gaf right now?


yes
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lolwot says

Question: Would you guys have this same kind of backlash if it was Anthony modded instead of Gaf right now?


OR ME!!!
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Jupiter says

well according to dezeriae that precedent went out the window a long time ago


not according to bronto tho, whom i believe has seniority, given that he's been admin longer? i could be wrong idk
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Question: Would you guys have this same kind of backlash if it was Anthony modded instead of Gaf right now?
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well according to dezeriae that precedent went out the window a long time ago
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Jupiter says

well I pretty much formally quit until I talk with bronto, so who cares what happens. I don't see gafgarion staying after this though


he can't without changing the precedent