Satan, like I said I don't believe Gaf cheated. @Steven, that also means I work from another assumption; that gaf never cheated and that he was unfairly banned.
I'll retract from the discussion now, I told you all what I think because 1) I think openness is very important 2) I wanted to avoid any 'oh which mod would have recommended gaf' speculations and 3) I feel bad for Gaf, I don't think he deserves this.
Last words, I am very sorry to see good 2 mods that want to quit over this. I never expected that to happen. I don't think it's necessary either, because I truly think we could all work together in peace and fun. I'm sorry to see not all my mod colleagues seem to feel that way.
Do you think I don't know gaf's alts? Look, you can disagree with gaf being modded, but it is extremely unfair to try to compare him to abc. I won't respond to messages like that again.
You might know his known alts but you can't 100% know his secret alts if he's proxying. I'm using abc as an example, gaf is a cheater just like abc, he's no different imo.
if you really think cheating makes everyone the same then i guess you severely underestimate abc
Do you think I don't know gaf's alts? Look, you can disagree with gaf being modded, but it is extremely unfair to try to compare him to abc. I won't respond to messages like that again.
You might know his known alts but you can't 100% know his secret alts if he's proxying. I'm using abc as an example, gaf is a cheater just like abc, he's no different imo.
Lady, under the assumption that he did cheat, the fact that he keeps denying it even now is probably a good enough reason not to mod him.
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One thing though, I don't really see why gaf gets his own thread with tons of people throwing their arms in the air when Junter cheated too. Not many people seemed to care too much about that when he got modded
no he didn't
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ABC continuously bypasses his suspension to troll, break rules and post awful things in the forums. It is not comparable. That disgusting x-rated content is still burned in the back of my mind.
Do you think I don't know gaf's alts? Look, you can disagree with gaf being modded, but it is extremely unfair to try to compare him to abc. I won't respond to messages like that again.
Even IF he did in fact cheat almost 2 years ago I still think he has all the assets to be a great addition to the mod team.
A lot of cheaters would probably make decent mods, it's just that cheaters broke a critical rule and are thus barred from modding. That's just how it is.
lol
don't forget about how bronto flat out stated that cheaters are barred from moderating. and since the games are no longer speccable, you have to judge them on their violations.
ABC continuously bypasses his suspension to troll, break rules and post awful things in the forums. It is not comparable.
Yes and what makes you think gaf doesn't do this on alts? Terra bypassed for over a year and only revealed herself when she saw a chance to be unbanned.
ABC continuously bypasses his suspension to troll, break rules and post awful things in the forums. It is not comparable. That disgusting x-rated content is still burned in the back of my mind.
Even IF he did in fact cheat almost 2 years ago I still think he has all the assets to be a great addition to the mod team.
A lot of cheaters would probably make decent mods, it's just that cheaters broke a critical rule and are thus barred from modding. That's just how it is.
I also feel really bad for Gaf, he doesn't deserve this backleash. He applied to being a moderator because he cares about the site and wants to help out. If I was in his shoes I wouldn't have a fun time coming home.