isnt this the same thing i said at the start of this thread just said differently? :l
guns shouldnt be in comp lobby.. plain and simple, they are either game breaking for town and make easy wins out of nothing or they give mafia a free win because the person with gun shoots. also , theres an entire rule dedicated to hipfiring with guns. guns give people an excuse to grudge lynch people without being able to be opposed. if youre pr with gun you have full control no matter how much town objects, which is just silly.
setup the best setup is what more setups should look like. both PRs shoudl optimally hide instead of claiming , PR claim d1 is the only bad thing about VDLI. if one of the power roles was squishy instead of hard to kill (doc is "squishy, bp is "hard to kill", etc") then it would be great , imo.
and i remember when people actually LIKED playing those scumhunt based setups,. they preferred it to gimmick ones. regardless of whether anyone thinks overall play is worse or better, the attitude people have towards scumhunt setups or scumhunting in general is worse now, which makes overall play worse as a result.
well i just wanted to say all that i guess.
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guns are becoming the new lynch, that'st he problem with most new setups. lynching is only ever for lylos now, and equivalent to set in stone absolutes, rather than placeholders for FOSes and reactions. it also encourages a chain of command that makes reading harder, hence why most gun setups end up being scumsided. not only do you run the risk of a *** pr, you also lose any valuable voting process and instead get SHOOT KYLE LOL a bunch. by replacing lynching for a ML with guns, you effectively neuter most competent setups and ruin any form of methodical strategy that could be employed.
so yeah.
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and by slowly, i mean someone get nikki on the phone and tell him to ban guns from competitive lobby.
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yes, guns are slowly killing competitive lobby.
deletedover 10 years
part of the problem is guns cause games to become trollish, fast-paced and lower effort which has leaked onto other games, guns probably should be banned from competitive lobby
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honestly, vdli now is the most fun setup i play. all the other setups, to me, just feel like gimmicks with hoops to jump through. straight up scumhunting is actually fun. too bad this site is f*cking sh*t now.... noobs -_-
yeah i think vdli might be the best setup that people still actually play. scumhunting is dead and it sucks
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that's good, considering it (should be) incredibly town sided.