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somebody tell me im wrong

over 8 years

cause im not convinced

https://epicmafia.com/report/185580

so now i can effectively refuse to self every game and if the clear decides to get me bwed I can report him for grudge lynching?

i suppose you can argue that it gets a violation because he lynched two people here; but i really can't see the lynches were both based off grudge reading the d1

also, i really don't agree with "With lines like "even if you're doc you're still being voted" they show clear intent to throw the game.". are you going to give a vio to somebody thats stubborn that says something like "i dont care if you're cop im lynching you" if the cop did something stupid and was bwed on?

over 8 years
my definition of a grudgelynch/kill is killing without any reason. I had a reason, It was enough for me to warrant a lynch. Day 2 i outted the two groups of mafia/towns. I lynched in one. FYI this is me writing without re-reading the game, so there may be some inaccuracy.
If i recall correctly, i thought maldito was mafia trying to look town by defending lazy who turned to be a villager.
over 8 years
there's no such thing as obvious town in a game where nothing is obvious
deletedover 8 years
I understand your point, denial. If anything I think Maldito's is more of a grudge lynch than mine because he was obvious town for giving reasons. But, like I said I see your point.
over 8 years

lazy says


groundhogday says

like when i said gerry makes bullsh*t reports and mori confirmed sustains them without reading the game to give gerry an ogi advantage in his trophy run


oh ya we cheat in modding too not just games. why isn't anyone talking about the actual mod who gave the vio? and the other mod who thought it was at least a note?? lol


i mean its really only ian thats hounding you. i can see why people think it'd be a grudge lynch, so im not really going to call out every mod that got it "wrong", i just wanted to explain why this isnt and shouldnt be ruled as a grudge lynch

your response seems to imply you still think its a grudge lynch, so i wanted to explain that even if he did lynch you based solely off not selfing, we shouldn't be ruling that as grudge lynching because it'd be ridiculous what people could report for
over 8 years
because they read the game

why are you deflecting blame, don't you still think he was throwing
deletedover 8 years

groundhogday says

like when i said gerry makes bullsh*t reports and mori confirmed sustains them without reading the game to give gerry an ogi advantage in his trophy run


oh ya we cheat in modding too not just games. why isn't anyone talking about the actual mod who gave the vio? and the other mod who thought it was at least a note?? lol
over 8 years

moon says

trial mod Ian


Finally the true purpose of the trial mod system has been realized.
over 8 years
so many people talking about me and i was out watching my friend graduate over the weekend. Shout out to Denial for helping me appeal. I never have attempted an appeal before (technically i still havent).
over 8 years
trial mod Ian
over 8 years

Calvin says

yeah you weren't loud


You wouldnt know
deletedover 8 years
yeah you weren't loud
over 8 years

groundhogday says


moon says

mod Ian already


they said no)):


I was quite for you getting modded
over 8 years

groundhogday says

like when i said gerry makes bullsh*t reports and mori confirmed sustains them without reading the game to give gerry an ogi advantage in his trophy run


that definitely was mean
over 8 years
i'll mod if ian mods
over 8 years
mr smith isn't going to washington this time around
over 8 years

groundhogday says

like when i said gerry makes bullsh*t reports and mori confirmed sustains them without reading the game to give gerry an ogi advantage in his trophy run


it's not like this isn't true tho
over 8 years

groundhogday says

i think it's because i am mean on the forums sometimes


being right about the rules and bad mods isn't mean
over 8 years
like when i said gerry makes bullsh*t reports and mori confirmed sustains them without reading the game to give gerry an ogi advantage in his trophy run
over 8 years
i think it's because i am mean on the forums sometimes
over 8 years

groundhogday says


moon says

mod Ian already


they said no)):


why not?? the person you leaked to is modded so I don't see the problem
over 8 years

moon says

mod Ian already


they said no)):
over 8 years

groundhogday says

he doesn't actually think it's gt. that's why he isn't trying to make his point. it's part of his attempt to win trophies by making people afraid to lynch him


next level trophy running
over 8 years
mod Ian already
over 8 years
he doesn't actually think it's gt. that's why he isn't trying to make his point. it's part of his attempt to win trophies by making people afraid to lynch him
over 8 years

lazy says


groundhogday says


lazy says

it wasnt refunded. but he only lynched maldito because he kept unvoting and didnt self IMO


why haven't you tried to learn the rules after all this time you've been a mod for


i'm just here to give you HC vios.

ps: it's blatant he only lynched us not cause he fos us, but because we refused to self.


ok so lets imagine this is true (even though not self voting is grounds for a fos), are you now going to say that lynching somebody because they didnt self is deemed a grudge lynch?

why does this deserve a violation? because he lynched two people and not just one? can you reread the game and tell me that a player wouldnt be confused as to what motivation maldito had be voting the clear on day 1 and telling the doc to not heal him?

the main reason i'm asking is because you can not say that somebody not selfing isnt suspicious when you're acting as the clear trying to hammer combined with the fact that ruling this as grudge lynching actually sets a terrible precedent.

so what if he didn't fos you? can I as mafia (lets say im even townread and not fosed by the clear) refuse to self vote and then report him for grudge lynching if the clear then decides to bw me for not selfing?

bottom line is its ridiculous to say this is grudge lynching because not everyone thinks alike. to some user, not selfing and not being listened to may be his #1 scumtell that gets autolynched