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Remove Fiddler Now

Renaldo
over 9 years

Please remove Fiddler from Main Lobby. It is a bad role that stifles communication and really doesn't belong in ranked or competition.

Make a version of YYC with a nilla instead of fiddler and use that. It'd play out pretty similarly and likely be less townsided.

Making this thread mostly to make a poll to see what an overall consensus is.

Thank you.

Remove Fiddler from Main?
19
Disallow from Ranked/Comp
9
Allow
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Remove Completely
deletedover 9 years
Hey Arcbell what's up
Arcbell
over 9 years

UniversalStudios says

Good thing that takes away from the rest of the post.


the rest of the post was equally silly i just couldn't think of anything snarky to say about it
UniversalStudios
over 9 years
Good thing that takes away from the rest of the post.
Arcbell
over 9 years

UniversalStudios says


Arcbell says

Turning whispers off stifles communication, so disallow all setups that don't have whisper on, by your logic.


irony


i don't think it means what u think it means
UniversalStudios
over 9 years

Hibiki says


UniversalStudios says

Even if you remove Fiddler, mafia would only have a little bit of an edge in knowing their team, but town have the same odds of reaching a favorable resolution.


just kill the setup


I thought this was the point of the thread.
UniversalStudios
over 9 years

Arcbell says

Turning whispers off stifles communication, so disallow all setups that don't have whisper on, by your logic.


The irony being you threw a game because information you didn't need at the time was kept from you until mafia gave you that information in order to get you to sheep them.
Hibiki
over 9 years

UniversalStudios says

Even if you remove Fiddler, mafia would only have a little bit of an edge in knowing their team, but town have the same odds of reaching a favorable resolution.


just kill the setup
UniversalStudios
over 9 years
Even if you remove Fiddler, mafia would only have a little bit of an edge in knowing their team, but town have the same odds of reaching a favorable resolution.
UniversalStudios
over 9 years
At least you realize you're wrong.
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The subject was the Fiddler role. The role. Not the meta, not the userbase -- but the role.
UniversalStudios
over 9 years
What was the "subject" of that sentence, RawMcGee.
deletedover 9 years
Do you like posters of underage animated girls from Asia, Zovea?
deletedover 9 years

Hibiki says

i plussed his post because it supports my preference


Yeah I'm sure he has tons of anime-plushies in his room too.
Hibiki
over 9 years
i got distracted by something else
Hibiki
over 9 years
er, right
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UniversalStudios says

For a setup to lean town in this meta means that mafia don't have a competitive edge. The problem with YYC is that if scum don't kill a pr, town has a 100% resolution after sherif shot.


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UniversalStudios says

For a setup to lean town in this meta means that mafia don't have a competitive edge.



UniversalStudios says

For a setup to lean town in this meta



UniversalStudios says

in this meta

deletedover 9 years
he meant became actually
Hibiki
over 9 years

Apostasy says


UniversalStudios says


Apostasy says

As the creator of YYC, the top player on S&L, and the third top player on STBS I hereby declare the setup that I created a garbage random meshing of roles that happens to be balanced in the same way coin-flipping is balanced.


Minesweeper was competitive before it because a pointfarm.


before it because a pointfarm


not hard to see he meant "before"
UniversalStudios
over 9 years

RawMcGee says

Is there ever a topic in which Zovea doesn't bring up the completely irrelevant point of the userbase.


First my post has nothing to do with the userbase. Second you can't talk about the game and ignore the userbase...
Hibiki
over 9 years
i plussed his post because it supports my preference
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UniversalStudios says


Apostasy says

As the creator of YYC, the top player on S&L, and the third top player on STBS I hereby declare the setup that I created a garbage random meshing of roles that happens to be balanced in the same way coin-flipping is balanced.


Minesweeper was competitive before it because a pointfarm.


before it because a pointfarm
deletedover 9 years
Is there ever a topic in which Zovea doesn't bring up the completely irrelevant point of the userbase.
UniversalStudios
over 9 years

Apostasy says

As the creator of YYC, the top player on S&L, and the third top player on STBS I hereby declare the setup that I created a garbage random meshing of roles that happens to be balanced in the same way coin-flipping is balanced.


Minesweeper was competitive before it became a pointfarm.
UniversalStudios
over 9 years
For a setup to lean town in this meta means that mafia don't have a competitive edge. The problem with YYC is that if scum don't kill a pr, town has a 100% resolution after sherif shot.
Renaldo
over 9 years

Hibiki says

YYC is like SSBM - a beautiful accident


bro do you even wavedash?