Remove Fiddler Now

Renaldoover 11 years ago

Please remove Fiddler from Main Lobby. It is a bad role that stifles communication and really doesn't belong in ranked or competition.

Make a version of YYC with a nilla instead of fiddler and use that. It'd play out pretty similarly and likely be less townsided.

Making this thread mostly to make a poll to see what an overall consensus is.

Thank you.

Poll
Remove Fiddler from Main?
Disallow from Ranked/Comp65%19
Allow31%9
Remove Completely3%1
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
Hey Arcbell what's up
Arcbellover 11 years ago
UniversalStudios
Good thing that takes away from the rest of the post.
the rest of the post was equally silly i just couldn't think of anything snarky to say about it
UniversalStudiosover 11 years ago
Good thing that takes away from the rest of the post.
Arcbellover 11 years ago
UniversalStudios
Arcbell
Turning whispers off stifles communication, so disallow all setups that don't have whisper on, by your logic.
irony
i don't think it means what u think it means
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UniversalStudiosover 11 years ago
Hibiki
UniversalStudios
Even if you remove Fiddler, mafia would only have a little bit of an edge in knowing their team, but town have the same odds of reaching a favorable resolution.
just kill the setup
I thought this was the point of the thread.
UniversalStudiosover 11 years ago
Arcbell
Turning whispers off stifles communication, so disallow all setups that don't have whisper on, by your logic.
The irony being you threw a game because information you didn't need at the time was kept from you until mafia gave you that information in order to get you to sheep them.
Hibikiover 11 years ago
UniversalStudios
Even if you remove Fiddler, mafia would only have a little bit of an edge in knowing their team, but town have the same odds of reaching a favorable resolution.
just kill the setup
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UniversalStudiosover 11 years ago
Even if you remove Fiddler, mafia would only have a little bit of an edge in knowing their team, but town have the same odds of reaching a favorable resolution.
UniversalStudiosover 11 years ago
At least you realize you're wrong.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
The subject was the Fiddler role. The role. Not the meta, not the userbase -- but the role.
UniversalStudiosover 11 years ago
What was the "subject" of that sentence, RawMcGee.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
Do you like posters of underage animated girls from Asia, Zovea?
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
Hibiki
i plussed his post because it supports my preference
Yeah I'm sure he has tons of anime-plushies in his room too.
Hibikiover 11 years ago
i got distracted by something else
Hibikiover 11 years ago
er, right
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
UniversalStudios
For a setup to lean town in this meta means that mafia don't have a competitive edge. The problem with YYC is that if scum don't kill a pr, town has a 100% resolution after sherif shot.
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UniversalStudios
For a setup to lean town in this meta means that mafia don't have a competitive edge.
UniversalStudios
For a setup to lean town in this meta
UniversalStudios
in this meta
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
he meant became actually
Hibikiover 11 years ago
Apostasy
UniversalStudios
Apostasy
As the creator of YYC, the top player on S&L, and the third top player on STBS I hereby declare the setup that I created a garbage random meshing of roles that happens to be balanced in the same way coin-flipping is balanced.
Minesweeper was competitive before it because a pointfarm.
before it because a pointfarm
not hard to see he meant "before"
UniversalStudiosover 11 years ago
RawMcGee
Is there ever a topic in which Zovea doesn't bring up the completely irrelevant point of the userbase.
First my post has nothing to do with the userbase. Second you can't talk about the game and ignore the userbase...
Hibikiover 11 years ago
i plussed his post because it supports my preference
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
UniversalStudios
Apostasy
As the creator of YYC, the top player on S&L, and the third top player on STBS I hereby declare the setup that I created a garbage random meshing of roles that happens to be balanced in the same way coin-flipping is balanced.
Minesweeper was competitive before it because a pointfarm.
before it because a pointfarm
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
Is there ever a topic in which Zovea doesn't bring up the completely irrelevant point of the userbase.
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UniversalStudiosover 11 years agoedited
Apostasy
As the creator of YYC, the top player on S&L, and the third top player on STBS I hereby declare the setup that I created a garbage random meshing of roles that happens to be balanced in the same way coin-flipping is balanced.
Minesweeper was competitive before it became a pointfarm.
UniversalStudiosover 11 years ago
For a setup to lean town in this meta means that mafia don't have a competitive edge. The problem with YYC is that if scum don't kill a pr, town has a 100% resolution after sherif shot.
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Renaldoover 11 years ago
Hibiki
YYC is like SSBM - a beautiful accident
bro do you even wavedash?
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