Epicmafia

deletedalmost 14 years

It seems town sided to me, amnesiac has no real reason to random pick allignment wise, instead they can just pick whatever the night 1 death was (Obviously being town) giving town a mslynch day 1. This means a massclaim and organisation should lead to a town win.

Believing

almost 14 years

I'm not sure if many other Christians are like me. I bet they're not. I think you're right in that many Christians are just conditioned into believing into God. And it bothers me too that my own brethren can accept it blindly. But in all honesty, it's probably just jealousy within me. I'm like you; I need evidence to believe. Or I need to experience doubt to experience faith, depends on how you look at it. But these Christians...they're what God wants, not people like me. Not to blindly follow; but to trust & obey, to be faithful. You can call it ignorance, but if they're right, it doesn't matter if they're ignorant. (and I can't complain since they are on my side XD) I believe Christianity is true, not false, because of faith. Although logically, i also believe you can only be 50% sure. But that faith, STRONG faith, is what turns my 50% into 100%. Do you understand me now?

Believing

almost 14 years

The surprise when I get an A on a test I didn't study, pay attention in class, and literally was somewhat clueless about many concepts? Yet i STILL managed to pull out an A after MANY prayers. This is a simple miracle from God. And it's moments like this that helps convince me that I'm on the right side. You might say, "Faith is just an illogical answer to explain a phenomenon" yet science/logic wouldn't explain why i passed (i got a 96! :D) I know my experience the best; I thought I was gonna get a C honestly, and so the 96 is a real phenomenon.

Believing

almost 14 years

Do you really think me, of all people, would be arrogant? I'm not claiming to be right AT ALL if you had noticed earlier. I said that a just and righteous God would only provide 50/50 evidence, or in other words, God's existence is only 50/50. How do people tweak the numbers from 50/50 to 90/10, or to even 100/0 ? Through the power of faith! "How can you be so sure!" Faith is EXACTLY what makes you sure, and I assume you're not quite familiar with the feeling of faith. The feeling that God has just answered your prayer and you're willing to die for him right then and there? The feeling that God actually cares for you and provides a miracle?

Cypriot

almost 14 years

Someone got owned by Believing, not saying who. Also, you think that a Blitz is noob? You fucking scrub you.

Believing

almost 14 years

And btw, why CAN'T religion be a safety net? For many people it is a safety net, and that's a respectable decision. For others, it is enlightenment, though. They find the "truth," but it really all comes down to what God said in the Bible. He'll show himself to those who seek him. And, not to make the same mistake you did, I find your belief strange in that you want to know why you're here. I'd like to hear more on that, because by not answering the "why" with "because my parents had sex" makes me believe you seek an alternative reason for why you're here. And what's wrong with JUST being "told to believe?" That's really the beauty of religion. You only have to believe. And just don't ever stop believing. :]

Believing

almost 14 years

And also, you're going to assume why I believe in my own religion? You don't know enough about me to say why I do my own things. From the information I've provided you, i understand the assumption, but that's REALLY not it. I chose to follow God because I wanted to before I delved into the actual evidence behind him. The statistics isn't want convinced me into faith; rather it helps me stay in faith. Usually I sit in church thinking from an atheistic standpoint, in case there is anything "illogical" or wrong with the message. Sometimes I find things, and I question it, too. After much thought, I usually dismiss the problem with my own solution and remain faithful.

Believing

almost 14 years

First of all, there are gonna be "ex-rapists, murderers, and villains" in heaven, because even Christians are sinners. God is the only one who will judge those who are "good" or not. And also, stop assuming about my own view on death. Each person is different, the stereotype is really bothersome because I used to think about suicide at one point. I am NOT afraid of death whatsoever, regardless of religion. Even if God doesn't exist, i'd feel the same relief from life because I will no longer "feel" anything.

deletedalmost 14 years

omg did he just say there is a 50/50 chance wtf

MUNDO

almost 14 years

MFW MUNDO GOT TROLLED BY WU TANG CLAN CLONES. JOHN MADDEN HAS NOTHING ON MUNDO'S RAGE RIGHT NOW

Believing

almost 14 years

That's why i'm into apologetics; to understand the Atheistic mind. It helps me to stand where I am, and not be jealous of the other side I stand against. And your 2 possiblities: the first one, i agree with, and that's the way it should be. The second one is just a downright insult. If God doesn't exist, I know exactly what would happen to you and me. Nothing. If God does exist, I know what happens to us, too. Eternal bliss for me, eternal damnation for you. From the outcome, I have a better hope. If God doesn't exist and I've screwed over my own life, well i'll only find this out after I'm dead, so it won't even matter. But you won't EVER know beforehand. So when I'm dead, I know for a fact that i'll be happier when i'm dead. You, however, have a 50/50 chance. (you'll either end up in the ground or in hell, so there's the 50/50.) You wanna take that risk, go ahead. You'll need more hope than me

Believing

almost 14 years

And the other thing you said kinda hurt me personally to be honest. You say i'm afraid of death, living in fear, and that I need my religion to stay sane. You might just be making a generalization, but you directed it to me, and i must say, every one of those points is completely wrong about my own life. Staying sane? My religion drives me crazy! I sinful life is an easier life; it's hard to be religious. Afraid of death? When death comes, i'll gladly accept it to free me from this crappy life & give me eternal salvation in heaven. (Although i'm not gonna go seeking death anymore, especially after my friend did.) Living in fear? The only thing that scares me is what mankind does to me, not God. Mankind is much more sinful. You don't know the crap I've been through, and if this is how you see Christians or Christianity, you REALLY need to understand the other side better.

Believing

almost 14 years

You're talking about the trail that God left by human interaction, yet you fail to see his trail still here. First of all, it's a false assumption that just because God is eternal, then all of the evidence of his interactions should also be eternal. God can choose whether or not he wants to leave certain evidence behind. If he left behind too much evidence, that's a problem. Yet also, you can argue that the trail that Jesus has left behind "is" eternal. Jesus left behind a legacy. Right after his death, Christianity sweeps through the Roman Empire, through the Middle Ages, and into the Renaissance. Christianity still exists today, but not as strong (as in no more Christendom). God's interactions also are involved in Judaism & Islam because of the shared. It's interesting how 90% of the world believe in the existence of the same God today, as if that wasn't a large enough trail God left.

Believing

almost 14 years

So really, logic is not as important as choice when it comes to decisions like religion. You may "logically" make a choice, but any logic used will definitely be biased, including my own. I'm not trying to call Christianity superior in logic/evidence or anything; my personal belief is that all provided evidence is 50/50, and that one chooses which side they're gonna jump into. And also, there would be no firsthand accounts because everyone who would have a firsthand account is dead. I'm not sure if that's what you're saying, but those who witnessed Christ physically are dead, but the legacy they left is really ginormous, and i don't think a legacy THAT strong would live without confirm-able exact proof.

Believing

almost 14 years

Actually you know what, you're right. God knows that he'd create some logical beings. there's definitely some extremely smart people in history. But it doesn't mean that intelligence/logic necessarily disproves God. If your argument is "Since God created smart people, they are doomed/destined to Hell because they would logically accept God. Therefore, God is malevolent for dooming his own creation." (heh, this sounds anti-Calvinist to me.) But people of all intelligence have accepted God. Logic is really another way of saying "choice." You can use logic to choose to believe or disbelieve in God. Have my arguments seemed illogical anywhere? Lacking evidence or reasoning at all? I've provided plenty of outside knowledge that logic wouldn't provide. Although you may disagree with my arguments, i also disagree with your arguments, but I have substantial information to back my arguments with. You argue/question it's validity because you choose to reject it.

Believing

almost 14 years

First of all, Jesus didn't die to prove God's existence. God came in the form of man to save mankind from Hell, and the simple act of acknowledgment & acceptance of Jesus as your savior is what brings you to heaven. And your right on how the world is shifting in thought to a more skeptical point of view. Also, according to the Christian time line, that's supposed to happen, too. Before the rapture occurs, people will stray away from their faith. the world will become wicked before God returns. You can argue "that's just logic!" But not exactly written 2000 years ago.

EggyLv999

almost 14 years

@matt: wendys

Matt12

almost 14 years

What's your problem lately? You're being an ass.

Believing

almost 14 years

"Either God doesn't exist or God is arrogant and doesn't understand "his" species." I don't see how this statement makes sense. Option1 is the easy-way out, like those books that end with "and it was all a dream." Option2 is pretty much implying that if there was an omniscient, flawless being, it would be technically be his fault, while humans are much more flawed creatures. In fact, you would probably use the argument on how flawed humans are to support that God is flawed. Yet it contradicts itself, because God can't exist & be flawed, otherwise he's not God. Just so it doesn't go to Option1, God understands his species quite fine, actually. You said we'd have to ignore scientific evidence, yet there is scientific evidence that supports God's creationist method. There is cosmological evidence that supports God/creation/bigbang, discovered in more recent years. (Just so u know, I like cosmology better than evolution cuz it focuses more on the "bigger" picture)

Believing

almost 14 years

I honestly don't think you would need modernday evidence because there's enough in the past. If you don't believe in what happened in the past, it really comes down to what you choose to accept/believe in. (goes back to free-will.) If you choose to arrogantly ignore any historical evidence, that's your choice, and whether you're correct or not no longer matters. My point: evidence exists, but it doesn't matter when someone has already made up their mind.

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