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Jury Mod Poll #4

over 5 years

ISP

Nine votes needed to be valid, stops when mods dish out a verdict so please respond quickly.

Report Link

https://epicmafia.com/report/271276

Game Link

https://epicmafia.com/game/7015772

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Vote your verdict below.
8
Minor Vio or Warning
2
No Vio
1
Note
0
Major Vio or Suspension
over 5 years
80% Vio
10% Note
10% No Vio

Mod Verdict = 1st Vio
over 5 years
He voted based on what Pinche was saying and voting on, he did not out it as something in his own way which would require explanation for a read. It is isp, they didn't contribute to the overall town discussion.
over 5 years
Use speech filter and select player "KorbenDallas".

I see him/her only have 5 -6 lines in total, throughout the entire game

The game is not a short one, most players spoke much more than him/her.

yes. I would say this is an ISP.
over 5 years
For the record, i think this will be given a vio by mods.
over 5 years
It's not as clear cut as people say, he outed a read d1, voted blatant maf d2 and crossed in 50/50 lylo d3. He wasn't talkative at all, but I feel he did the bare minimum.

The fact that the town lost because of this has no bearing on this case.

For the record, the person reporting led on orc d2 saying orc was janned and no-orced, and cleared mafia by himself. Reporting last blue because he was "isp" and got hammered for it is disingenuous after playing a troll game.

I would no vio this one or give a warning, if that's a thing.
over 5 years
Clearly ISP. No participation of value.
over 5 years
i think this should be a vio, or at least a note. this looks like clear ISP from KorbenDallas resulting in town loss in a comp game. 3 lines d1, 0 lines d2, and 0 lines d3. the result of the game could have been different, had KorbenDallas actually participated d3 in an attempt to stop the bandwagon. hence, KorbenDallas caused the loss. the game did not go unranked, it was an actual loss, affecting other people's performance in the comp.
over 5 years
As you all should know, Pinche and Kor have been going at it, please factor that in.
over 5 years
I have my reasons for putting that way for now, but I agree it would have to be revamped your way.
over 5 years
Im sure most of you know all that ^ but it can help make your decision on whether it should be note or vio, or no vio
over 5 years
Ok so idk what 'minor vio or warning is.' mods dont get to decide the amount of time/punishment. So its done under rules and first __ vio gets __, second gets __, third gets __.

So the rank order for lightest- harshest punishment goes
1. no violate
2. note
3. vio
4. ban (which is really only used for accounts who are suspected of being banned users.)

So for isp the way its vio punishments go is
1. warning
2. 1hr game suspension,
3. 12 hr
4. 24hr
5. lobby ban.

Just clarify what you mean by warning? Are you talking about like most reports have warning as the first vio.

Because Notes aren't actually vios, they are only used to keep and eye on things
over 5 years
Clearly ISP so it's a violation
Or note it so he doesn't do it again but I think it would be a vio.
over 5 years
This is an ISP one but we are waiting to see which report to use for it.