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racial slurs (hey lucid)

deletedover 5 years

to provide some background on this, i've been gone for a couple months so i'm not sure what changes were put in place in my absence and why, but one rule that struck me as having been newly implemented is the racial slurs one. let's look at this for a minute.

"Use of slurs that are based on race and/or ethnicity. We will show absolutely no tolerance towards racist and xenophobic ideals."

so, the rule itself shows there'll be zero tolerance towards racist ideals. that's nice and i fw that, but... the rule itself is totally tone deaf towards people who actually come from these communities and use those words commonly in their every day vernacular in that it doesn't actually leave room for context or origin. as far as i understand it, nobody on the mod team is black, nor is lucid, yet these are the people who are in charge of doling out violations to people who actually ARE black and are using words that have a nuanced history of reclamation behind them. simply put: if i call someone a dumbass nigga in a game (presumably a white someone), am i racially attacking them? no. i'm calling them a dumbass nigga because they are one and they probably did something in-game to deserve it.

the rule is a joke

yes in a different color

yes

no b4 someone cries about not having a no option

Eli

over 5 years

SteelixMega says

Eli says

SteelixMega says

Also to the people who get offended by the white people saying the n-word, isn't it kinda racist to segregate words by race? Why can't a white person call you what all of your non-white friends call you?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378216614000526#page=3

tell me if you need the pdf if you can't get it

I don't believe in cultural appropriation. I think that is a crappy way to show contempt to people. There shouldn't be anything restricted to cultures. Fk, if I wanna wear a sombrero, let me wear a sombrero without it being offensive to every Mexican ever.

From the rules of "cultural appropriation", fair-skinned people getting sunburned would count as that.

What I just linked doesn't even talk about that though

Jeff

over 5 years

Hi heard you were lying about me can you fück off? I’m not talking to you so leave me out of this. I don’t call non-LGBT people the F-slur so off bye. I say it about myself.

SteelixMega

over 5 years

Eli says

SteelixMega says

Also to the people who get offended by the white people saying the n-word, isn't it kinda racist to segregate words by race? Why can't a white person call you what all of your non-white friends call you?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378216614000526#page=3

tell me if you need the pdf if you can't get it

I don't believe in cultural appropriation. I think that is a crappy way to show contempt to people. There shouldn't be anything restricted to cultures. Fk, if I wanna wear a sombrero, let me wear a sombrero without it being offensive to every Mexican ever.

From the rules of "cultural appropriation", fair-skinned people getting sunburned would count as that.

SteelixMega

over 5 years

spiritualized says

SteelixMega says

spiritualized says

imagine thinking cracker is a slur please go outside

lmao didn't you use cracker in a report because you thought it deserved the same vio as someone who said the n-word?

hold up - link your proof because i’m actually screeching at this

nevermind that was gulag, i thought you called someone a cracker just so you could try to equalize it to nubber

deletedover 5 years

blacksnakemoan says

asking a bunch of 20 year olds to moderate racist language is stupid which is why zero tolerance is in place

it’s almost as though there are people on the site other than the mods who could be consulted about this stuff on a case by case basis. not sure tho. just a gut feeling.

deletedover 5 years

SteelixMega says

spiritualized says

imagine thinking cracker is a slur please go outside

lmao didn't you use cracker in a report because you thought it deserved the same vio as someone who said the n-word?

hold up - link your proof because i’m actually screeching at this

Eli

over 5 years

SteelixMega says

Also to the people who get offended by the white people saying the n-word, isn't it kinda racist to segregate words by race? Why can't a white person call you what all of your non-white friends call you?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378216614000526#page=3

tell me if you need the pdf if you can't get it

SteelixMega

over 5 years

SteelixMega says

I can parallel this argument with the crappy argument with Jeff about he calls all his friends the "gay-f", while madly reporting anybody else (whom he believes to be non-LGBT) who says it in-game. It is kinda hypocrisy to report others for using words that you say all the time. It is kinda racist to segregate the ability to use certain words, regardless of meaning.

There should be no such thing as HC, only harassment where there are either online beefs or lies being told about other people, or constant antagonization to try to ruin reputations.

Edit: the only real thing that should be considered hateful comments are those calling for death to certain kinds of people. That is where the line should be drawn.

SteelixMega

over 5 years

So, even though I do believe that this rule is crap, there is no particular reason to use these words in-game. So these words should be allowed for use, but not encouraged.

So they shouldn't be an auto-vio, they should be considered circumstantially.

SteelixMega

over 5 years

And besides, I don't see anybody actually getting offended by stuff. Whenever I see someone report for HC, it is because they believe that "it is offensive to this set of people" without ever saying that it is offensive to them.

The only time it ever actually offends someone is when it is nasty, repeated personal statements, and there is a word for that: Harassment.

SteelixMega

over 5 years

I can parallel this argument with the crappy argument with Jeff about he calls all his friends the "gay-f", while madly reporting anybody else (whom he believes to be non-LGBT) who says it in-game. It is kinda hypocrisy to report others for using words that you say all the time. It is kinda racist to segregate the ability to use certain words, regardless of meaning.

There should be no such thing as HC, only harassment where there are either online beefs or lies being told about other people, or constant antagonization to try to ruin reputations.

SteelixMega

over 5 years

Also to the people who get offended by the white people saying the n-word, isn't it kinda racist to segregate words by race? Why can't a white person call you what all of your non-white friends call you?

SteelixMega

over 5 years

Imagine being offended by anything.

TheWitch

over 5 years

Spirtualized is hypocrite

AIienK

over 5 years

*slurps*

Eli

over 5 years

How will you able to know if the person who's using it is a member of the community that reclaimed it?

Flygon

over 5 years

this site was better when more black people used it

Hibiki

over 5 years

lilin says

an osomatsu-kun icon bad news

damn this is actually valid

blacksnakemoan

over 5 years

asking a bunch of 20 year olds to moderate racist language is stupid which is why zero tolerance is in place

SteelixMega

over 5 years

spiritualized says

imagine thinking cracker is a slur please go outside

lmao didn't you use cracker in a report because you thought it deserved the same vio as someone who said the n-word?

TheWitch

over 5 years

All slurs should be legal

lilin

over 5 years

spiritualized says

[jim staring at the camera]

I use references to media for arguments. I love Harry Potter!

deletedover 5 years

[jim staring at the camera]

lilin

over 5 years

spiritualized says

imagine thinking cracker is a slur please go outside

Cracker, sometimes white cracker or cracka, is a colloquial term for white people, used especially for poor rural whites in the Southern United States. It is also at times used indiscriminately and pejoratively against any person of white background.

deletedover 5 years

imagine thinking cracker is a slur please go outside